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Everquest 1 => Library => AA Discussions => Topic started by: bobokatt1970 on January 08, 2010, 06:24:16 PM

Title: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: bobokatt1970 on January 08, 2010, 06:24:16 PM
Ok so I spent a whole day getting ALL the aa to finish off this line.  My necro every time he blows LOD gets the gift of mana line to proc pretty often -- so does my mage -- I love it.  In 2 hours of soloing on my BST and using every DD, Dot I could muster, the Gift of Mana line popped the whole 3 times. IN TWO HOURS.  Do we as Hybrids have a lower innate chance of procing this?? Consider my BST is my main with full raid tower gear... and mostly max aa....

I was looking at this as my best way to conserve mana.. wait for it to proc.. and then cast my most expensive mana spell as everyone does.   Anyhow, it seems to be elusive at best.

any info on this?
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Kanan on January 08, 2010, 08:41:31 PM
You have an AT set to make sure that you know it's gone off?

Or mebbe it fired and you hit your next nuke fast nuff that it wasn't able to register it firing?

I am assuming that you have the Gift of really really uberly radiant mana or whatever the hell the highest level version is called, and not just GoM3.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Razimir on January 09, 2010, 12:44:10 AM
I have it popping more frequently. How ever it is bugged somehow, some spell / effect instantly poofs the GoM effect (I'm suspecting cleric HP aura, but not 100% sure).

-Raz
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Inphared on January 09, 2010, 02:12:13 AM
If you fizzle a spell while GOM is up, it will eat your GOM.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Razimir on January 09, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: Inphared on January 09, 2010, 02:12:13 AM
If you fizzle a spell while GOM is up, it will eat your GOM.

Yeah, but it poofs before I even cast anything. GoM icon just appears and instantly disappears.

-Raz
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: bobokatt1970 on January 09, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
Yes I have it maxed level so I can actually take advantage of higher level spells.  You might be right in that I don't even notice it popping, since our dots and DD's are cast so fast.  I will have to make an AT for it then -- makes sense.   It was just so weird -- I did the investment in AA's on this line which was rather heavy, and was expecting to see it work just so brilliantly like my it does on my necro.  Then again my Necro's DOTS are pretty much linear, I know exactly what DOT comes after etc.  With the beastlord, it's a bit hectic as I am casting everything under the sun as it pops during LOD burns.
Yah also fizzles... you care correct -- i've seen it eat the GOM from that.

On a side note I had no idea that there might be aura's that kill it.  Then again when I LOD, I solo with no merc up so that would not be an issue unless Circle of power would affect it or maybe my procs off my weapons or maybe procs off my poison or cold potions?
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Blarp on January 10, 2010, 07:09:51 AM
thus far i found Forray, feral swipe. are the leading cuz of it going POOF. so  i dont push them while its up.. if i notice. i stoped my auto trgs. i mean hey  it saves me a ton of mana.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Kanan on January 12, 2010, 04:46:52 PM
/chuckle.. if it could make foray not burn end, it would be nice on those battle rezzes.  Only time it would be of any real benefit tho.

chances of me not hitting my swipe/foray key are abt as slim as me not hitting my kick key.  They're such totally ingrained reflexes, I have tons of "can't do that for XX seconds" spam ;p
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Blarp on January 12, 2010, 06:25:49 PM
End is still used.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Kanan on January 25, 2010, 03:30:24 AM
kk.. today, I finished it off.  Made an AT to test it out.  I spam cast like a mofo.. I never heard my AT fire.. not once
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: bobokatt1970 on January 25, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
When I had originally posted, I had just finished getting the last tier that would finally pop on using the 80+ spells. As you found out it practically never went off, or at least it seemed that way.  2 days later I had logged on again and from then on and including my LOD burn yesterday, it seems to go off like mad.  I am not sure if for some reason the second you complete the last tier, it is useless till you log or something. Again the GoM keeps going off for me at least now quite often...
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Kanan on January 25, 2010, 02:21:05 PM
hmm.. I did a total EQ/C++ crash during the sacrifice event in tower, and it still wasn't firing at all for the next 2.5 events.

I'll see if it'll start working tonight.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Blarp on January 25, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
mine fire's left and right for 81-85 and for 76-80 spells
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Razimir on January 25, 2010, 07:58:38 PM
Quote from: Blarp on January 25, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
mine fire's left and right for 81-85 and for 76-80 spells

Mine does too.

-Raz
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Vidyne on January 26, 2010, 02:35:04 AM
Fires alot for me.  Fires for slows/panther and for 81-85 spells.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Kanan on January 26, 2010, 02:14:06 PM
changed my filter to be "granted a gift of" and noticed it proccing a lot.

May've been issue as described about logging.  More likely, it was an issue with me picking it's icon out from all the various song bar icons when I was unfamiliar with its icon and had a lotta icons popping up.

Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: bladepaw on March 24, 2010, 07:58:56 AM
dang when i looked at the AA I thought I would start getting it even when i saw it was 10 AA. When i saw the next rank was 11 AA I decided to get things like pact of the wurine and focused  paragon to help with manna regen.  I also have some clickies that help with manna pool and manna regen.  As for foray I click that as soon as I can so I guess I would not benifit much from GoM anyway.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Sharrien on March 24, 2010, 01:21:54 PM
I aven't looked into it in detail, but I suspect that at least some procs may eat GoM.  I do not have that AA line on my beast, but I have it maxed on my mage.  When I recently got the boomerang evolving weapon for my mage (which has a proc) I noticed that GoM was poofing often when I had him swinging his stick.  I didn't have logs running, so can't tell if it was his melee weapon proc or pet-spawning spell proc or if I was just seeing things.  Anyway, it's something to look into if any of you are still seeing GoM poof unexpectedly.

Not planning to get GoM for my beast any time soon.  I spend most of my time questing atm, so gaining AA is slow going.  Getting GoM up to work for 80+ spells is just too huge of an investment right now before I would see any return.
Title: Re: Gift Of Mana set...
Post by: Blarp on March 24, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
Thus  far the onlything i see that eats GoM is spells our lowest Cold Nuke uses Both 85 Gom and 76-80 GoM proc thats the only flew i see atm.