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Everquest 1 => Hunting Grounds => Levels 76 - 80 => Topic started by: Gunzak on February 24, 2008, 04:06:37 AM

Title: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 24, 2008, 04:06:37 AM
I was bored and had an hour to kill before a raid so I went and checked on WoS Murkgliders and at 78 they are light blue and 4% a kill.  I was about to kill non stop and got about 2aa in 80min or so.  Not a bad spot and zero risk of death.  Not super exp but it is 4% per kill.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: NunnyaBiz on February 25, 2008, 02:26:28 AM
Best place I have found to solo at 78 was the Greenhouse in Katta killing snakes.
Get both quest, 1 where you slay 20 snakes and the other where you turn in 4 herbs as added extra exp.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Sardarni on February 25, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Greenhouse solo at 78 is tough.  I went there a full set of SoF tier 2 gear and 1800+AAs.  Kiting as a beast is slow and when I tank the mobs I end up using a heal pot on every mob and focused Paragon.  I am only doing it  for the faction, because the risk is too great.

I am now 79 with 1950+ aa and it is still tough, with just one extra player, any class, any level, it gets better.

Hint: Pull with annul magic to get rid of the nasty proc.

At 79 some start to turn LB.

At 78, I loved PoFire C2, haven't tried it at 79
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 25, 2008, 04:14:16 PM
I was just posting about WoS cause I was surprised the exp was still 4% at 78.  I don't plan on leveling up again till all my defensives are done as well as another 100+ utility AAs are complete.  I got my new pet and nuke and I am happy.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: NunnyaBiz on February 25, 2008, 11:32:26 PM
Wow, at 78 I didn't have any problems at all soloing snakes.
I only have little over 800 AAs (quit playing for over 2 years so way behind most in the AA department).
I'm basically geared in a full set of Elegant Vah Anima with Sublime Augs and Last bloods. (about 15,500hp unbuffed)
I am maxed in all defensive AAs.
Have my same old weapons I picked up 3 years ago (Handwraps of Captured magic & Fangs of the Serpent both with added lifetap augs so I have 4 lifetaps going off constantly and have all of my healing AAs maxed).

As you say, definitely pull with nullify magic so you don't have to deal with that snare spell they would otherwise cast on you.
I then put my bark at the moon pet on him, then my warder 1sec later which has Bulwark of Tri'Qaras Rk. II & Spirit of Lairn Rk. II and Steeltrap Jaws Rk. II on him plus buffed as well as I can manage.

Pet is able to tank the snakes fairly well with just a couple Promised Mending Rk. II cast on him.
I usually step in when snake is about 60% life left, I cast focused paragon & Panther on me prior to tanking and I rarely have to cast a celestial healing potion before snake is dead. But I also have 4 lifetap procs healing me.

Rinse and repeat, I can usually solo about 5-7 out of the 10 mobs before they start to repop.

Now at level 77 it was totally different, I "could" solo them however it was real sketchy, the new pet at 78 plus focused paragon made a world of difference.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 26, 2008, 07:29:10 AM
You got me beat by about 3500hp and probably 200ac and over 300AA.  I bought a 10 count exp pot tonight so I figure if I spend every night doing murks for about 2 hours I can get a little over 7AA or 35AA per week.  In a couple weeks I can have max defensives, wurine, feral rank3, Burst of Power rank2 and a few ranks of pet defensives.  This doesn't include boxing with my Druid to level him up to 76 for his crazy damage shield and new wave spell.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Khauruk on February 26, 2008, 04:32:28 PM
Druid at 76 charm kites alligators in Loping Plains, bst sucks xp.  Probably about as fast as you'll get.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 26, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
I am in the process of getting my Druid some tribute items so he will have mana pres and dot focuses so he can kite better.  He has no problem kiting 69.1 Hard but I plan to move him to Icefall spiders soon.  Will have bst out of group to add extra dps.  My Druid is seriously lacking in AAs but I will rectify that soon.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Khauruk on February 27, 2008, 12:27:16 AM
Charm kiting =/= kiting - once you get the hang of it, charm kiting is about the fastest way to gain xp in the game.  I am able to get almost 10AA solo in a lesson on druid at 76 if I don't do stupid stuff (w/o xp pots, or other xp boosts).
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 27, 2008, 02:18:31 AM
I had extremely poor success charm kiting in icefall.  The charm would typically wear off after 30 seconds or less.  I didn't have Glamour of Tunare though so that should help a lot.  I have been reading the Druid board for suggestions on assistin my Druid which in turn will help my beastlord.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Khauruk on February 27, 2008, 03:26:30 AM
Aye, Glamour and rk. II charms help an insane amount.  I would recommend no more than 6 mobs in your kite group, w/ a non-laggy connection.  Some do more...I can't keep the initial few from getting killed incorrectly w/ more than 6.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on February 27, 2008, 07:53:27 AM
Do you charm kite or just charm one mob and attack another then break charm before it dies to get exp for kill?  I got Glamour of Tunare and Beast's Beckoning Rk II so I am gonna try charm kiting this week.

I also did Katta snakes tonight.  With my Druids debuffs and Focused Paragon I had zero problems killing the snakes.  Gunzak made 2AA in a little over an hour and Doogin made between 20-25% reg.  I would pull with my poison nuke, send pet, slow, BE, FP myself then tank.  Doogin would use wave, debuff, debuff, wave then alternate between heals and waves.  With Gunzak casting BE pet and poison nukes and Doogin casting waves the mobs died real quick.

P.S. I bought Pact of the Wurine today.  Made 3AA killing murks and 2AA in Katta and had 3AA already banked.  Now just need 6 more for Feral Rank 3.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: NunnyaBiz on February 27, 2008, 01:45:58 PM
Excellent.
I would pull with Nullify Magic however if I were you so you don't have to deal with the snare they cast.
As far as slowing I just let pet slow with Steeltrap Jaws, its a better slow and procs immediately and is never resisted as far as I can tell.

2 boxing with your Dr00d you will never have any problems at all and once you get used to them you can solo them very easily.

I just logged on this morning real quick to kill one snake solo to see exactly what AA exp I get per kill before this next patch which I assume is suppose to give a slight increase in AA exp. I have 90% going to AA and got just a tiny bit over 2 Blue bubbles.
After a couple hours of killing you will also have quite a few Herb turn ins and 2-3 Slay 20 missions to collect which give like 3 1/2 - 4 Blue bubbles per turn in which raises the average AA exp per kill to at least 2 1/2 to maybe 3 Blue per kill so for every 10 -12 snakes you get an AA counting the missions.  Plus you get faction if you need it.

I also did the Portal quest so I can take the Portal right there near Hesia which takes you about 3/4 of the way back, only takes maybe 30-40 seconds to run back from there on a fast mule.
I cast a gate potion at snakes which takes me right in front of Hesia where I'm bound, I turn in 4 herbs, hit my hotkey (/say Greenhouse, /say Herbs, /say Retrieve) hop in the portal and i am back in about 1 min.

I can't imagine a much easier place to get AA if you are just soloing or 2 boxing

Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Khauruk on February 27, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
Charm kiting:  I round up 5 mobs, each with 14 minute snare and glamour of tunare on them as debuffs.  Circle them up, get enough distance, and charm one.  Tell it to attack one of the other mobs - all should attack them.  Hit innate camo to break charm, and charm another mob.  Tell it to beat down your last target.  Rinse and repeat.  As mobs start to get low hp, you'll start to get funny agro issues, and often have several following you and several on pet, so keep running :).

It takes a little while to get working well, but the rewards are insane.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: AbyssalMage on February 29, 2008, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: Khauruk on February 27, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
Charm kiting:  I round up 5 mobs, each with 14 minute snare and glamour of tunare on them as debuffs.  Circle them up, get enough distance, and charm one.  Tell it to attack one of the other mobs - all should attack them.  Hit innate camo to break charm, and charm another mob.  Tell it to beat down your last target.  Rinse and repeat.  As mobs start to get low hp, you'll start to get funny agro issues, and often have several following you and several on pet, so keep running :).

It takes a little while to get working well, but the rewards are insane.

Off topic but how long do you think Sony is going to allow this to happen?  Basically they are going to put in coding to rectify this issue and your going to have another useless druid.  So I guess what I'm saying is rack as many AA's up as possible cause I can't forsee this lasting past next expansion.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Khauruk on March 01, 2008, 02:53:52 AM
The ability to do this has been around since before I started to play the game in PoP timeline.  However, normal charming was more beneficial at the time afaik.  This is the post-nerf version to compensate for the charmed mob dps output change post GoD.  So, it's already been nerfed, and the devs have known about this for years.

Could it be nerfed?  Yeah.  Will it be?  Doubtful.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on March 02, 2008, 11:42:38 AM
Guess you have to be 76 to charm the gators.  I tried using my highest charm, the level 71, and its too low to charm them.  Its also too low to charm the level 74 bears in Loping Plains too.  Still the gators are 19% AA per kill solo at 75.  They take forever to kill as a Druid root doting though.  Druid dots just dont put out enough dps.  I was averaging 1.2-1.4k per tick and a Necromancer kiting gatos near me said he was averaging over 6k per tick.  He was same level as me.  For now boxing Katta snakes is the fastest experience mt Druid can get.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: hokarz on March 02, 2008, 12:06:12 PM
I'm sure that necro had max crit affliction aa's, dot extension focus and the best burning affliction focus he could find, all of which your druid probably doesn't have since you box him, you use him as a healer most likely. If you solo'd your druid as your main, you would probably work on your dps aa's first. *shrug* different classes, differen styles of playing the game.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on March 03, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
True.  If I had gear that gave dot extension, and extra dps it would help a lot.  Necros also have way better dots then Druid do.  I went and did crocs today with Gunzak out of group and assisting with pet, dots and BE pet and my Druid got almost 1% reg per kill and 2% with exp pots.  Druid went from 10% into level to 76% into level from kiting and then a nice exp group in Gyrospire Beza.  We did Gyrospire Zeka after and the awesome focus earring droped but I lost roll and a Warrior won.  It sucks cause he is just gonna sell in bazaar and it was a HUGE upgrade for me.  It was the earring with Spire Servent focus.  My Beastlord is still using Qvic focus from boots which is 3-4 levels lower then the earring.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Blistar on March 03, 2008, 01:39:17 PM
Hi Gunzak ,

Long time no see.. 

I have and 80 druid and me and when I just want to grind a bit I go to Loping plains , set up near worg quest giver and pull worgs with my druid.  Decent AAxp in addition to faction for fangbreakers and quest XP reward. 

Cast reptile on your beast and just back out when you need a complete heal from your druid. 

My gear is a little better than yours, however your druid can keep you alive.  and if you get into trouble , ie multiple adds, zone into bloodmoon.. 

You could kite there with your druid also.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on March 03, 2008, 08:47:01 PM
I did crocs last night after hitting 76.  It was difficult not having the AA clickie invis since sometimes they would kill my pet before my invis went off.  I quickly made 5aa and got Innate Camo and now that problem is gone.  Once I get the trick down I can easily see doing 6-10AA an hour here.  Pull 5 crocs, get pet beat down till almost dead, clickie invis, then nuke old pet and repeat.  They went from 19% AA per kill at 75 to 16% AA per kill at 76 but thats still real good experience for the risk.  Even not having the clickie invis, and losing several pets, I still made 5AA and 4% reg in about 90min.  Thats better then my Beastlord can do.
Title: Re: Easy AA spot at 78
Post by: Gunzak on March 09, 2008, 10:29:16 PM
I have taken my Druid back to crocs a few times now and with vet running I can do 6AA in 30 min.  I made 14AA here yesterday and wasn't on very long.  I am going to get my Druid to around 150-200AA then go back to boxing again.  I want to try and get my Druids healing abilities maxed out so we can try some harder stuff.