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Everquest 1 => Sony Beastlord Correspondent Information => Old Correspondent Information => Topic started by: Skanda on September 30, 2006, 11:25:37 PM

Title: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Skanda on September 30, 2006, 11:25:37 PM
I had a friend point this out to me yesterday so I started trying it out too. It seems that Amilan currently does not work with MGB. I'll cast it and it will use the MGB up but it won't hit anyone not grouped with me. This is probably a bug left over from when they changed it from a single target into a group buff spell. I've done a bug report but those are next to uesless. Hopefully you can go poke the spell Dev about this Tast.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Tastian on October 01, 2006, 01:08:14 AM
Did a couple days ago when I noticed it hehe.  8P

Haven't heard back yet, but obviously a small oversight so hopefully will be fixed soon(ish).  8)
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Wewere on October 26, 2006, 02:12:55 PM
Petitioned this and was told in response that "the spell is worked as intended".  Ticket closed
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Rawrzor on October 26, 2006, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: Wewere on October 26, 2006, 02:12:55 PM
Petitioned this and was told in response that "the spell is worked as intended".  Ticket closed

That's really the only response you'll get from a petition in regards to spell utility.  In this case, "working as intended" means that the spell is castable.  As for the spell specifics (cast time, mana cost, group vs solo, MGB-ability, etc.), that needs to be addressed to the devs via the Sony forums or via our community correspondent.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Timberghost on October 26, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
Someone else already posted this in a different thread, but here's where your problem is.  Go to Lucy to the raw spell data (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw.html?id=10337&source=Live) and note that it says:

can_mgb 0

That means it CAN'T be MGBed.  Until a dev changes that you are SoL

By contrast, any of our other spells that are MGBable say

can_mgb 1

This is just one of the things where it has to go through Tastian to say /Smack WTF were you thinking errrr or a more polite version of this such as "Why don't you want this spell to be MGBable"
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: jitathab on October 27, 2006, 12:42:58 PM
Im sure was oversight. Spell was orginally single target and then made group at the very very last moment.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Koocoo on October 27, 2006, 07:50:42 PM
I started the other post.

As was pointed out there it is only of concern in a few fights, namely the DoD progression where the shammy buffs from Wunshi up are blocked by the Blood AE.

It is a pain because many up-level (note I did not say end-game) guilds only carry a couple of beasts because of our uber dps uh well our tanking ability uh well range fight capability uh well our unequalled healing uh -- ok our SE. That means that in these fights 2 average mana pools are being drained  by 2k group spell costs. And don't expect the raid to sit and wait for the 5 minute timer to expire so you can regen your mana before you have to fight.

So everybody /bug it and maybe we will get a patch that actually has something for BLs for a change.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Skanda on October 28, 2006, 12:32:19 AM
Quote from: Koocoo on October 27, 2006, 07:50:42 PM
namely the DoD progression where the shammy buffs from Wunshi up are blocked by the Blood AE.

On that note anyone else notice in the last patch they finally got around to changing the Blood debuffs so they don't put you into combat now?
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Kanan on October 30, 2006, 02:08:23 PM
wow.. at least for the DP debuffs, they didn't do that.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Razimir on November 01, 2006, 02:49:35 AM
I don't know why someone would like to MGB this useless buff, but /nod it seems to be bugged!

-Raz
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Kanan on November 01, 2006, 02:18:38 PM
reason for it was in the other thread:  Its more hps thatn fo7th, and in Queen Sendaii & Matriarch Shyra, the curse AEs block the higher level focus spells, so being able to mgb it in those situations would be nice.

There's also the small raid situations where you don't have a shaman, where it would be nice.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Caathrok on December 06, 2006, 07:11:49 PM
Petitioned this last night, he (GM Gargnos) copied my char and attempted it, didn't work for him either so he submitted the problem to dev team (or so he says).

*crosses fingers*

Dude was also a good sport and pulled a mob off the walls in MPG for my guild raid. (we were bored, 2.0 epics ftw!) And put up with my guild again when he showed up in the guild hall looking exactly like me.

Best. GM. Ever.
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: hakaaba on December 06, 2006, 07:17:18 PM
yep our focus spell has exactly 3 uses: solo, shyra, and sendaii :(
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Caathrok on December 06, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
I use the focus alot more than that... shamans aren't exactly plentiful on my server - the MGB of it, however... Shyra and Sendaii :)


still, mgb-ability will be a huge boon for those fights, as most of my guild prefer the few extra hp over the stats of fo7 and casting it for 5, 6, 7+ groups takes forever with it's manacost
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Mewzee on January 20, 2007, 06:27:35 AM
Did this ever get fixed in a patch or any GM or correspondent answer?
Title: Re: Focus of Amilan + MGB?
Post by: Skanda on January 20, 2007, 08:40:15 AM
http://forums.beastlords.org/index.php?topic=7043.msg77309#msg77309

It seems to have been fixed during the patch on the 17th though it missed the patch notes.