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Started by Funzo, February 01, 2004, 12:47:44 PM

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Funzo

Had a brilliant MENSA member of a player tell the group we were in how rolling 1 to 1000 gives everyone better odds of winning an item then rolling 5 to 555.
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/ignore Sslassher

Someone needs to give natural selection a push. :x
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Lorathir

Quote from: FunzoSomeone needs to give natural selection a push. :x

That's simply priceless.  8)

Vecsus

sounds like a guy I know that is taking a statistics class.  he's now convinced that the odds of winning the lottery are so low that it's statisticly impossible to win at all.   I told him that statement proves how dorked up statictics really are.
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TerjynPovar

Statistically impossible means different things to different people.

Statistically, there is a 0.000000% chance of winning the lottery (accurate to 6 decimal places).

A lot of people would refer to that as statistically impossible.  Improbably certainly.
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Coprolith

Quotesounds like a guy I know that is taking a statistics class. he's now convinced that the odds of winning the lottery are so low that it's statisticly impossible to win at all. I told him that statement proves how dorked up statictics really are.

No, that statements proves how dorked up people who have just begun taking statistics class can be

"statistics don't lie, statisticians do"
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Lorathir

85% of statistics are made up.

:wink:

Skullet Crossbones

I have a 50% chance to win the lottery......50% i lose, 50% i win  8)

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Zorithi

Practically speaking, each person in a 6-person group should have a 1-in-6 chance of getting the high number in a 1-1000 roll.  I mean, generally speaking, 6 people roll and 1 person wins.

But statistics would have to account for the possibility of the high roll being a tie between one or more of the rollers.  In this case, assuming only the ones with the tied numbers rerolled, then the probability of one of the tied participants winning changes, changes to 1-in-2 (for instance).  Since every person in the group has an equal probability to roll a tie, then logically there is actually a statistical probability measurably greater than 1-in-6 of any one person winning the roll (as seen prior to the initial roll).

If the total numbers possible are cut in half to 1-500, there is a statistical increase in the chance to roll a tie between 2 or more rollers, as there are fewer numbers to go around but the same number of rollers.  Therefore, everone in the group has a greater chance of getting into the group of tied rerollers.  By increasing the statistical probability of rolling a tie, you have just statistically increased the chance of winning for everyone participating.

Do I have the math to prove this?  Nope.

Does it matter?  Nope.

It's midnight, my team lost, and I can only hope I'm not taken seriously.   :lol:

I think the logic works though, if there are any real statisticians out there who can supply the math.

Coprolith

Nice try Zorithi but no cigar  :lol:

If there is no re-roll on a tie, you have actually decreased the chance to win the roll straight out, since the chance of rolling a tie gets larger as the range of the roll decreases. But each person still has the same chance to win, and the same chance to end up in a tie. If there is a re-roll on a tie, then each member still has the same chance of winning. 6 members = 1 in 6 chance to win no matter what the range of numbers is.

/hugs
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Merescata

ok ok my brain's about to explode
and now my pet is pissed that I forgot to heal him

curses that RNG
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Zorithi

Oh, well.  It sounded good last night.  I would be interested in seeing the math involved but not enough to go research it.

My degree in Business is from 1978 and it wasn't real strong in stats to begin with.   :roll:


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