Vergalid and Pets

[Denti]

Yep, in the beginning pets could get the Beltron dot, but after one of the many changes they couldn't anymore as far as i remember. It's been quite a while since we saw him though so that might have changed again.

[Zebrn Beasword]

Yep, in the beginning pets could get the Beltron dot, but after one of the many changes they couldn't anymore as far as i remember. It's been quite a while since we saw him though so that might have changed again.

Not really sure about this since we don't use pets on beltran b/c of interrupts. 

[Orbus1]

I have used my pet in Vergalid with no adverse affects. Never had GL saying kill pets or anything.

[laissez]

Pets shouldn't be on beltron ever, as they can stun him and interrupt him casting his proc.

Any guild that bans pets on any sort of raid is ignorant and i wouldn't be a part of it.

[Orbus]

Any guild that bans pets on any sort of raid is ignorant and i wouldn't be a part of it.

Not necessarily true, Vule is a prime example.

[Nusa]

Any guild that bans pets on any sort of raid is ignorant and i wouldn't be a part of it.

Not necessarily true, Vule is a prime example.

Actually, it's a prime example of how pet myths propogate. Pets are fine on Vule, at least for the people assigned to engage it.

The danger is that the pets of anyone NOT assigned to engage Vule will join after an AE, which counts as the person engaging, which then causes people to be banished. We only make those in the rear guard pocket their pets. If they get sent in to Vule, pulling them out is fine.

Of course, having a guild leader who's a mage and two beastlords as officers, we're a little more willing to validate the pet situation ourselves than some would be.

[Orbus]

Maybe I am wrong but my understanding is that Vule can only have 24 at a time on his hate list, if there are more than that your players start getting the random boot...pets count on that list. So even if I am assigned to engage Vule, we would rather have a another person on the list and not my pet.

So you are saying pets do not get added to the hate list of Vule?

[Inphared]

Your pet counts as a source from you. Therefore it's only one person on the hate list.

[Nusa]

Vule can only have 24 people on his hate list. And the boot order isn't random, which means you better have some backup tanks ready for when it happens.

[laissez]

In all my years of raiding i haven't seen an encounter with a legitimate reason to have pets banned.

On a side note tho I can think of a couple of ppl who contribute less to the raid than my pet =p

[Denti]

There seems to be at least one event in MMM where a pet can under some specific circumstantes make it very hard to win. Just a tip, dont allways equip it with weapons.

[Kanan]

heh.. last night with Fabled Quarm it was interesting... my pet went berserk! ;p

somehow, either he got charmed, or when I got charmed, I lost control of him.  Hitting my hotkeys did nothing.

Here's the weird parts:  At some points he would beat on other PCs, but for the most part, he was beating on Quarm.  But after the fight, he had to be put down, along with at least 1 mage's pet.  Was just really really bizarre.  Anyone else had that yet?

[Zebrn Beasword]

In all my years of raiding i haven't seen an encounter with a legitimate reason to have pets banned.

On a side note tho I can think of a couple of ppl who contribute less to the raid than my pet =p

Well, there was that one event in the carpin cycle that would spawn adds whenever a PC or Pet died.  Our first time through people used swarm pets on enrage and it spawned something like 300+ adds.  We were never allowed to use pets of ANY kind after that on him.  Was some funny stuff though :)

(This was a few years ago)

[laissez]

I'm pretty sure that was a bug.  But in any case I'm not so attached to swarm pets as I am to my life long animal companion that defines the beastlord class.