This is something of a repetition, but I would like to relate a story that is relevant to the situation.
About a week ago, Kunnar was in Shar Vahl, on the way to GF. As I pass thru Shadeweavers and SV, I do a /who to see if there are any newbies in the zone, and offer help or buffs. Now I will give a newbie buffs, i will not PL them unless it is a friend with an alt that I know already knows how to play. I have PL'ed exactly 2 people in my 3+ years of playing.
I get tell from a level 1, how do I find Registar Binderah. I reply where he is, and get a conversation started. Turns out he just bought the game and logged on for the first time, and a BL was his first choice for a char. I jump in and help him complete his Citizenship quest (not a walkthru, just help to eliminate needless wasted time). He gets ready to start out to Shadeweavers, and I give him some buffs, and follow to teach him what and how. I spent about an hour showing him around, and he got to level 3. I had to log then.
I had put him on my friends list, and last night I saw he was on and playing in FoB, up to level 10. Cool, not taking the PC express! I was happy. Sent him a tell, and find that he is being PL'ed by a 57 Pally. Asked him how he liked fighting with his warder, and he said "I don't get a warder till level 14 right? Thats what the Pally said." /boggle
It turns out he had asked several BL's for help, asked them questions,a got told to stop wasting their time, and go buy a guide or go to the web.
WTF are people thinking? This is not how to learn to play the game! If you are not willing to teach a new player to the game how to play IN GAME, don't complain about the way they play at later levels. If the only help he got offered was a Pally willing to PL him, its no wonder he will end up not knowing how to play a BL.
I got him to go buy his spells (haddent yet as the pally said he was a tank, not a caster!) and let him know how important his spells and warder were. An told him how PL'ing was not the best way to level up.
If a player askes, ANSWER. Not a smart ass remark, a real answer.
If we don't teach in game, we have no right to complain about bad, or uninformed players at higher levels.
/NOD
I quit playing my mage for reasons along these lines, logged into the serverwide mage channel and asked a question and was instantly made to feel like and idiot. The most kind reply I got from anyone in the channel was to "go mine the message board and figure it out".
When I get a random tell from a younger Beastlord asking a question I take the time to help just like I would want them to do for me if the shoe was on the other foot, I also point them to these boards as a great source for further help. Information is the craziest thing, its free but its priceless.
Kudos to you for taking the time to mentor younger members. Keep it up and maybe, just maybe, one newbie at a time, you can make a difference.
~K
Kogg Sloberknoker
62 Ogre Beastlord
Sol Ro
I get the occasional /tell from Newer BST.
I keep my answers short and to the point and offer any opinion I feel needed.
Dont lay the smack on yer fellow Beastlords no matter how new or uninformed they are.
I like nothing more than actually being approached by a geniune newbie who has the desire to actually learn how to play and now just get 'phat lewts'. This has only happened about 2 or 3 times in my years of playing but I always made the best of it.
It really is sad how elitist people tend to be. Starting up new servers doesn't solve anything since droves of these people go there and compete to be the first to get XXX item on the server.. if anything newbies ought to AVOID new servers due to the crowds that go there.
Maybe some day there will be an MMORPG that actually rewards kindness.
I dont do this as much as I use to but...
I use to save all my old crappy drops and bank them. Now mind you, these would be TOTAL crap to me like... Fine Steel Short Short, Bronze Armor... things of this nature.
Once I had a metric ton of this stuff laying around I would empty all my bags, load up the crap and head off to "The Newbie Zones" and begin handing stuff out, giving away money, running short quest (bring me 20 bat wings) and stuff like that. I really enjoyed this.
The game has matured so much though that to find a 'real' Newbie is rare. Finding Avatar of War up and Uncontested is not even remotely close to how rare a 'real' newbie is.... so I woudl go out and run these little quests and give away items and I kid you not... people would COMPLAIN about how "Crappy" the stuff is I would give away. It angered and saddened me all at the same time.
Since then I no longer play Santa Claus. Occasionally I will buy a few things in the Bazaar, invis up and head to a newbie zone and try to 'find' a 'real' newbie and hook them up. Its still a rare day I do this though. The fake-Newbies wore me out. Plain and simple.
Just a little story for you all :)
PS: To this day I still get an occasional /tell from some level 65 Uber who thanks me for helping them out when they were a young adventurer... still beings a smile to my face :)
I still like to look for newbies. However, I make sure they are a genuine 'good' newbie before I approach them. And, of course, I ask them to do something fun.
One occasion in particular was organising a 'Newbie Duel' in GFay where the winners chose from a selection of bronze, fs, plat, stat food and drink etc. Of course, that was years ago. You couldn't do that now with the amount of twinks about. I drive by buff a lot in newbie zones and it constantly amazes me the amount of low level charecters with Temp. You can tell when you heal them.
Dang lack of edit button!
By 'good' newbie I mean 'true'. No, I dunno why I typed 'good' either.
QuoteOnce I had a metric ton of this stuff laying around I would empty all my bags, load up the crap and head off to "The Newbie Zones" and begin handing stuff out, giving away money, running short quest (bring me 20 bat wings) and stuff like that. I really enjoyed this.
That is a great idea, but I understand why you don't do it anymore. I am always suprised when I cast a "drive by" buff on a newbie under Level 10, and the buff won't take hold. I know Level 39 BL buffs arn't great, but what Buffs did they get that superceded mine?
It seems the only time I really got any appreciation was when I got a group of 3 Level 1 newbies and cast Spiritual Light. They all asked "Whats that?" and I knew I had cast on the right newbies.
Quote from: mac173It seems the only time I really got any appreciation was when I got a group of 3 Level 1 newbies and cast Spiritual Light. They all asked "Whats that?" and I knew I had cast on the right newbies.
The other day I was hunting near a group of four all in their low 50's. After a bit a conversation I asked if they would like Spiritual Light. They all asked "Whats that?"
And Kracke, go check out the LoS message board if you haven't already.
Powerlevling isn't ruining the game. Attitude is ruining the game. I was powerleveling my Ranger the other day with my BL. When some 65 cleric came up and buffed my ranger with every buff that would hold. I kindly said thank you for all the buffs. Then the cleric went on his way.
It's when some jackass says "pffft I got a better buffs then what your offering" that gives powerleveling a bad name.
I too, on occasion, have hit Shadeweaver's to help to locals get started. Most seem nice and I still get a few tells of thanks after the buffs and the weapons have past their prime.
For me, and this is how *I* feel, I enjoy helping folks. I don't get mad if they don't like it. I help anyway. I ignore the morons that 'whine or complain'. I do this stuff for me, and if they get a small bit of enjoyment then great! I do it on my terms and on my time. I try to visit Shadeweaver's once a week, just to remember the old days, when I went off running back to town since I aggro'd the 'blood-drenched'.
I spent 3 and a half years fielding wizard questions when I was playing that toon. Seemed from the time I hit 50 people had questions (back when it was tough to hit 50). It never bothered me and I welcomed it really, was fun helping people that needed it. On my first Bst I answered every newbie tell I could and now with my second Bst I find I am starting to get the tells again at 56.
It just takes a minute to change someones game day and it should make you proud that someone looks up to you. There are sooooo many bad players on servers now due to the fact the game is just too easy to level up on. People aren't learning their characters because of zones like PC. Don't believe me...I have a 1.5 hour old Druid that is almost level 22. Though I will only use him for DS, DoT, Ports and Heals that is horrible that you can level that fast. I am thankful for this fast leveling as I am achieving 65 again on my main. I am 5 days played at 56 and I feel I have messed around a bunch.
Help the newbies learn so they don't suck. :)
Quote from: CaspiI am 5 days played at 56 and I feel I have messed around a bunch.
The other day, I happened to get into a conversation with a fellow passenger on the train on the way home from work. It turned out he was a fellow EQ'er. Playes on Rallos Zek. Has a 52 Bard. Started playing in October. Sheesh.
I would consider myself a true newbie. I played EQ for a month a couple of years ago with a couple of friends, but I never went past level 11 or 12. I've only just restarted playing again the past two weeks, and I chose a Beastlord. I am having a blast and enjoy it. The zones seem more empty now, and a lot of the simple kindness of passing strangers seems gone. I admit I am shy, but I have not received any little "hello", buff, item, etc. even when standing around resting with others around. I'm not complaining about the buffs and such, because I like doing things on my own. But the world of Norrath just does not seem as friendly as it once was. I guess my only point in this post is to say, please don't get discouraged by the twinks and ungrateful people, there are those who appreciate it - even if it is just to say, "Hi - do you need any help?"
BTW - someone mentioned getting to lvl 22 in 1.5 hours?!? I know I am slow and not a good player, but I've put in at least 8 hours (I would estimate in the past two weeks), and I am only just now about to hit lvl 9 with my BL. Am I really that bad of a player? (Just curiosity - as I do not care, I am having fun either way.)
My first toon was a wizard. It took me 4 months just to reach level 26.
Two of my friends took 3 days to make level 2!
5 years later, my Beastlord only took me several hours to reach level 30.
QuoteBTW - someone mentioned getting to lvl 22 in 1.5 hours?!? I know I am slow and not a good player, but I've put in at least 8 hours (I would estimate in the past two weeks), and I am only just now about to hit lvl 9 with my BL. Am I really that bad of a player? (Just curiosity - as I do not care, I am having fun either way.)
Thats doing pretty well. I usually think a level an hour is doing well. The comment about level 20 in 1.5 hours referres to a Twinked toon being PowerLeveled.
The problem is that people think that to have the most fun is to be level 65 and be raiding PoP and GoD getting +200hp items. Everything else is just wasted time ... egads there is so much fun stuff from 1 to 65 I wonder why everyone is in such a rush to skip it all. I was one of those "level a toon to 25-30 and then reroll" people for ~3 years before Luclin came out and I got hooked on my BST. My favorite thing to do was still to wander around and see what I could do, check out the zones, really test myself every chance I got, and try it with different classes. Its both surprising and somewhat frustrating that so many 'new' EQ players (less than 3 years played) that are on now dont know squat and have been limited to the PC-HHK-whatever-PoP levelling treadmill. Yet they'll argue with me to no end that their pets regen quicker if sitting, that 2hb is useless without double attack, and "how do I get to Gunthak". All you PL guys have missed out on the absolute blast that all sorts of zones have to offer. Nothing wrong with spending time in some of the old zones having a blast .. just that groupage is harder to come by when "exp grinding" is more important than fun. I guess thats the fate of every level-based MMORPG though.
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Yet they'll argue with me to no end that their pets regen quicker if sitting
Rofl, you know how long i had my pet /sit because i thought he needed it like I did. Man, so funny now, but what a pain back then when i'd forget to /follow before i went and pulled again.
Just out of curiosity last night I checked levels 1-20 that were not anon. I found about 5 that were not bazaar mules.
Died twice and had to zone twice during a hard EF LDoN due to the 65 cleric with 115 AA's having such a small mana pool that she was /oom every 5 CH's.
This was with SD, C5 and paragon every 15 mins.
I told her I had 7100hp's and she was CH'ing me when I was down to 70% AFTER I lost agro.
We lost our adventure (my first loss ever) and she was more concerned with getting the loot from the named in the zone than winning.
Added another high level nitwit to my do not group with list.
I would never powerlevel someone unless I was sure that they had 100% comprehension of the games mechanics.
/RUDE to Sony for making so easy to get people to 65.
Nox
Think we've all seen it all at one time or the other but my favorite is...
Friendly lil Warrior, 65, mob comes in and I try my hardest to get behind the mob, she pulls the mob back so her back is against the wall then TURNS around so the mob has it's back to the wall and the pets happily smash it into the wall or up the wall and she keeps saying "I don't know why this keeps happening.
I notice that I tend to get resentment if I try and tell somebody else how to play thier class but how does a warr get to 65 without knowing how to keep the mob in the open?
Sigh, just ranting but that's what this Forum is for..
I had a guildie for a while that was convinced he needed to buy a second EB item for his pet. In addition to the fact that he didn't know the first thing about how to play beastlords (was asking other people for invis, no control over pet, etc). He was the worst player I have seen to date.
Had a 65 BST come by me one day in DPS where I was hunting hoppers outside their cave (was 52 at the time). Someone trained 3 of them on me while I was fighting one. Left Kitkat on the initial hopper and FoL'd the other three and kept rotating them till warder knocked off 2 then finished off the other two together.
65 BST just watched and when I had finished asked how I was Fearing MOBs. Imagine his shock when I told him with a level 9 spell :roll:
To be fair, FoL is one of the few Beastlord spells that can't be bought at a Beastlord or Shaman spell vendor. If you're not one of the kind of people who checks out spell lists on whatever random website, you'll probably never know that you can cast that spell. I think it's only sold at Paladin and Cleric spell vendors...oh, wait, the only exception I can see on Allakhazam is one of the Shaman spell vendors in Cabilis, which makes sense since they're KoS to any Paladin or Cleric spell vendor except in PoK. Still, not exactly obvious that we get that spell.
Game on,
I started playing EQ about 2 - 3 months before RoK came out. Back then my first toon was a half-elf warrior homed in kelethin. Man was it easy to get groups , tons of friendly people around - I still remember 2 , unfortunatelly not their char names , but one gave me an Avenger's BattleAxe which I thought was amazing. And the other gave me a Bronze BreastPlate (after about 2 days of trying to figure out why all the small armour pieces wouldnt fit - go figure HLF meant Halfling not HalfElf :) )
Anyway back then ton's of people would come to greaterfay and do their own little quests to give out what they considered 'garbage' but myself at the time and others considered 'great' .... Now though , 5 years later , as others have said newbie areas are empty , and you have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding a true newbie. Sony's made it so simple to level now - with the tutorial that gives a +5 to all main stats +10hp/mana , 2 backpacks , and like 3 -5 gold depening on cha ... not to mention the 'find' command - but then again theres no real newbies so why bother.
But I agree that PL'ing has ruined the game some ... although its at a point now that if you are a true newbie you have 2 options , stay around lvl 20 for ever trying to solo your next lvl - or get PL'd. Its pretty much impossible to find a group at lower levels.... but then again my mains a 54 Ranger (yes after 5years main is only 54 , was one of those get to ~20 and remake a new char) and Ive got just as hard of a time finding a group with him.
But on another note Im having a blast with my new Ikky BST.
It is sad when the only enjoyment you get out of a game these days is when you go into a NEWBIE area and help the legit new ones. I have spent hours upon hours talking to, passing out very minor buffs or cast a heal here and there when the group cleric is OOM or just slow on the cast. I have not logged on in a year and a half due too IRAQ mission, but now after reading the boards I am afraid of what I might find when I get there. I will truly feel like a newbie myself again, but that is ok, I have many quests that I am currently in the middle of that I plan on finishing. I really miss the old school days, and most understand what I am saying.
When I was new someone gifted upon me riches aplenty. They only asked that I return the favor to fellow new players like myself. So I have, but ONLY to new players or those in need. I gave away my Golden wraps to a 52 beast when I got my cudgel. Why? Because it made her day EQ-wise. All told, Ive likely given away over 100k in plat and items. Yet some players dont deserve even an answer to a simple question. If I get a tell from someone using "leet speak" then I will put them on ignore or just ignore them completely, regardless of what their question or situation is. When I played a cleric I was the same way. Want virtue? Not if youre saying d00d or plz or the like. If someone cannot take the time to speak to me as an intelligent human, then they do not get anything from me. I deserve that much. Yes, I know that there are language barriers, but if that is the case, then precede your request by saying such. Im not here to get you to 65, Im here for me. You dont pay my subscription so dont expect me to make your levelling easier just because I can.
Quote from: LigaWhen I was new someone gifted upon me riches aplenty. They only asked that I return the favor to fellow new players like myself.
Back before Kunark came out, I had a 50th level magician that I'd leveled up. When I (finally!) got my SMR, I put together a little "care package" for an int caster -- nothing much: oracle robe, int wrists, earrings, dragoon dirk, etc., and handed it out to a newbie magician in WC, telling her to pass them on to another caster when she was done with them. She was thrilled, and I was happy. I went on my way and didn't think about it again.
Flash forward 3 years. I'd sold that original account, played DAoC for a year, come back and started another mage and my beastlord from scratch. Around 15th level for my mage, a wizard came up to me and offered me a care package, saying that this had been passed down through many characters and I was to add something to it, and pass it on to another newbie after I was done with it. I thanked him and opened it up, and saw: oracle robe, int wrists, earrings, dragoon dirk and quite a few other things.
And at that point, I remembered my little care package from 3 years previous. I would love to know whether or not this was the same one, and whether that magician had started a tradition. It certainly was the same stuff, with more things added in... my original was a single backpack, but the care package was up to 3 10-slot backpacks now.
I used it until I was around 35th level... added in a better bracer and passed it on to a young enchanter. I truly hope the tradition continued past that point.
That kind of thing keeps me playing this game. It's not the raids or content or loot or levels. It's the people.
Heh, well, by riches aplenty I mean 7 tink bags, hiero cloak, SMR, OOIV, and other smaller things. This was near the start of Velious. They also got me from 4-11 in about 10mins by doing the turn ins with the dorf in Kaladim. Been so long I forget what it was now :oops: .
I don't personally see PLing as that big of a problem.. assuming two things first though
first.. the person being PLed should have a character that's he's already played to the higher levels. I'd personally think that 65 should be the minimum, but I'd go with 60 I guess. I say this cause it still is far too easy now a days to hit 65, however, at least once someone is 60 they should know how to get around a little bit.
I Pled my beastlord up to 65 using one of my guildees shaman. I think that overall it took 6 playing days to get him to 65 with elemental access (minus fire). However, in PLing my beastlord, I realize myself right now that even though I'm one of the best equipped shaman around, I don't know shit about how to play a beastlord effectively. I think that you can learn how to play the game overall with your main, but you cannot play that next class to the fullest extent until you have spent a considerable amount of time on them. I also have a ranger that was given to me by a friend, and I know offhand that I can't play him either like I would like to play.
So, overall, I think that maybe PLing has hurt the player base alot by making some people 65 without knowing to how to play their class. I will tell you straight up that I cannot play my beastlord or ranger up to the standards of some other people that I play with. However, because of my background, I do have a good knowledge of what is and can be expected of me. This is what I think though might be missing from the people that have been PLed. I got to 65 on my shaman by refusing to be Pled by my real life friends and by soloing/grouping my way and traveling from location to location peddling my sow potions. This got me around in the game and allowed me to properly learn my class.
QuoteI got to 65 on my shaman by refusing to be Pled by my real life friends and by soloing/grouping my way and traveling from location to location peddling my sow potions. This got me around in the game and allowed me to properly learn my class.
Hrrm... maybe you should work on peddling some more...
=P
<3 ya Vals
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Yet they'll argue with me to no end that their pets regen quicker if sitting
I have been playing since sometime before when /consent ment you could loot the corpse... I could have sworn at one time makeing the pet sit did make it regen faster.. I remember all pet classes regularly used /pet sit down, at the lower levels. A lot changes in this game... The lvl of the pet you summoned also was of variable lvl when you summoned too. ex. pet could be between lvl 11 to 14 when you cast the spell. So the people your arguing with may be the alts of Old farts who missed a patch message at one point. Kind of like the people who didn't read the patch message that you don't have to look at the spell book to med /snicker.
As for PL'ing ruining the game.. It does, it ruins it for the people who are new to the game, because they have hardly anyone to group with... unless they go to the leveling tredmil zones.. then they have half a chance of getting a group. It's not bad for beastlord newbies.. because they CAN solo eficently.. poor newbs of other classes are not so lucky.
I only PL myself, and thats when I want a new class to box with... I already smelled the roses enough times. I only want new content or new classes.
[/quote]The other day, I happened to get into a conversation with a fellow passenger on the train on the way home from work. It turned out he was a fellow EQ'er. Playes on Rallos Zek. Has a 52 Bard. Started playing in October. Sheesh.[/quote]
lol... I've been playing EQ since September of 2000 (woot 4 years next month). I have only ever had two characters over level 50 and Whiptail is my highest character ever at 56.
My brother played several years ago, quit and came back and is at 46 now. I have a friend at work who has a level 26 cleric as his highest character, and his son has a level 30 or so. At my last company, the only person I met that played had a level 37 rogue. I have numerous other examples.
People who think that there is no one left under 65 are wrong, there are still newbies out there (certainly a lot less than before of course).
Hehe I am a slow lvler, my main is an enchanter on FV and she is 3 years old and only 57 I have no real concern about makeing lvls as fast as I can. My 52 beastlord made that in 2 months but I still took her to a bunch of diferant zones and checked out diferant things, all my other toons are 3 or 4 years old and from 12 to 51, and will lvl when they lvl, I PLed my SK for 10 lvls from 39 to 49 and I think that is all the PLing I have ever had done. I just dont like it to hard to keep skills up. and I like to take my time anyway and enjoy the game and the world.
This thread will outlive my dog.
Excellent post and I thank all to those hg lvl players who take the time out to help me. Even though I am only a lvl 29 bst, I always cast upon those I see. If for some reason, people ask me questions...I have no problems telling what little information I might know. But remember, a lot of what you do in game is generally a sure sign of the type of person you are in RL. I like to help people, and can't wait to hit lvl such as the rest of you...I will just run around and buff and answer questions. Good times.
Well, I thought I would post this. I logged tonight after having read this thread and replied. Too make a very long and awesome night short, I went from 28 to 32 in MS with the help of some fine high lvl PCs. Here is a screen shot I took. Nothing special, just wasn't aware of me being a man made of fire....They also were so gracious in giving me several thousand plat as well as some nice gear at the end of the night. I never once ask for any assistance, only if they were /lfg. Fince example of the finer people of EQ.
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Been leveling some chars up lately in places like qeynos/qeynos hills and blackburrow, hardly see a living soul around, also done some mammoth hunting in everfrost and sometimes i recieve a high level buff or a heal, and i always thank the person casting.
Sometimes when low on time i run my cleric/mage/chanter around buffing people, mostly paludal, the low level people over at the shadeweaver side is thrilled when they get clarity, haste, 25dmg ds, temperance, course this takes a lot of logging on my part since i only have 1 account :)
As for powerleveling it sure does hurt when you try to solo some in paludal but have to compete with a beastlord twinked and buffed by a mage in the top guild on the server, not many mobs left for me :(
When I started I rolled a magician. This was about 4 years ago I guess. I asked a high level mage in Ak'Anon some questions about the class and he answered them al with patience and gave me a couple of plat so I'd be able to buy my first spells telliing me how hard it had been for him to get it al together.
About two years later I was walking through South Karana with another char of mine. Who do I see. The rare Pegasus required for the Mage-epic. The mage in question was still on my friends list (seeing as I hardly ever use it I never "cleaned"it.) So I give him a tell, asking if he still needed that epic-piece. He did, came on over as fast as he could while I was following his epic mob. He was very gratefull. Never told him why I picked him over all other mages online to come on over though.
Is it powerleveling or the attitude of "screw you hunting here, I am more powerful than you"
I love the phrase, "Just because you can, does not mean you should."
When you see powerleveling going on and you get the attitude stated above, you don't easily forget it.
I personally see other things ruining the game more than powerleveling.
If the one being PL'd has played before and is making an honest effort to learn and to deal with the reprecussions of being PL'd, then the consequences are minimal. If the person is an immature jerk, then there is not much hope anyway. Those that are powerleveled only affect my game when they are where I wanted to hunt. I can go somewhere else for a few hours and come back and they will be gone as they race ahead.
As I took my bard to 65, I grouped with soooo many people I did not know. At least 1 if not 4 new folks every ldon for over 220 adventures. I can count on my hand the ones I would never group with again. Then again, playing on Firiona Vie tends to have more mature players. I could not say the same thing before I left Lanys, though I met lots of good folks there too, just had a higher percentage of bad encounters.
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Anyway back then ton's of people would come to greaterfay and do their own little quests to give out what they considered 'garbage' but myself at the time and others considered 'great' ....
When my long since retired taxi cab of a druid was 22, i was told that the best 1hb in game before epic was dark ember.. this was when RoK had just come out. i /auc that i was seeking one and this druid sent me a tell asking what i had to offer for it. i showed her my whole life savings of 300pp, which was alot to me as i started from scratch and wore leather well into my 30's, and she said "throw in that FS morning star and ye got a deal." i thanked her and went merrily on my way. it wasnt until a week later that i saw the price on DE at almost 1500pp!!!! She made one heck of a sacrifice at the time so that a lowbie like myself could have the gear he so desperately wanted. i want to say right now that it is people like that druid that make this game great. and if you look hard enough, there are still ppl like her playing today. maybe when eq2 goes live this game can get back to its former glory, but i fear that Norrath has been forever changed by the hordes of bazaar babies and platinum sites on the web.
Keep the Faith!!
That's a great story. I still run into people like that occassionally. I think I'm going to start a few toons over on the Firiona Vie server (got 3 accts) and use them to level up. I hear the level of maturity on that server far exceeds other servers.
Maybe it's because people only get one toon per account, so no one wants to ruin their reputation. /shrug
yeah, the avg maturity on FV is very good. There are still the PL'ers, jerks, role player snobs/clicks to be found. Also the prices in the bazaar are insane imho.
It is tough to find groups at lower levels, so be warned. Due to having only one toon per account you get 2 extremes, those that are forever low level because of roleplaying/constant reroll or 60+. Not impossible, just not plentiful.
Also, if l33t speak is used, be prepared to be VERY alone in your journey.
Well, i am probably ruining this server by saying so. but on Nameless where i just started. i havent had a single problem with plevelers, twinks, or anything at all, and there are always plenty of people looking to group. in every zone i go to with the intnetion of soloing a bit. i always wind up with a full group. its nice... almost as nice as it used to be pre-bazaar.[/url][/list][/list][/code][/quote]
I play on FV and have found that the people are extremly friendly. Additionally, when I give a drive by buff or some tattered armor to a newbie, I get alot of thanks. I think the special rules tend to promote true newbies.
/agree FV rules promote newbs, but i cant play on a server with just one char.. i am a reroller. a casual player and if i get tired of playing one i want a second and third to fall back on... :( :?
That's the fun of it! The character on FV would be the fall back character. No reason you can't have two or three others on a different account. You just can't twink this character. (Although, if you go to the low level hunting section I have a post there on how to make some very good cash for a starting character, works very well on FV server. Link to that post is here (http://www.beastlords.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1126)). In that guide there are two easy quests that a low level can do. I think I did quite a good job on it. 8)
I think having all items droppable and trivial loot code on everything is a very fun way to play. Only problem is I don't really feel like starting over, so my play time there won't be so great.
yeah. i have an ebook with ways to make over 1K an hour at level 5. im not worried about that lol. I might start on FV later.. but my current server is very nice for me conisdering all ive ever known is PvP. and i would like to concentrate on my new Beastlord. just got dual wield on him and things r getting very exciting. also theres still my necro i love to play on vallon, so i have plenty of ooptions to keep me going for at least the next 6 months or so. but thanks for the link and the info. if i decide to play on FV, it will become very useful. :D
I recently plved a druid on a 2nd account to counterpart my lv 70 bst. Usualy, i would be the only one in the zones was plving in. But at the young lvs when i went to PC or Splitpaw, sometimes there would be others there plving or just doing normal exp by themselves. I would always offer them buffs from both bst and druid, and if there was room, even invite their entire group to my fray. I had no need of loot. Told them to help themselves and they gladly shared amonst themselves as i remember when i was a starting bst how hard it was to get any little bit of cash for spells and armors.
If theres simply not enough room for me to exp my druid, i move to another area out of other groups ways.
Needless to say, druid is 65 now (thx xarrais--monk/shm 2boxer friend was farming in poh and let my druid mooch) and all her skills are cought up except divination (39!) heheh.