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Everquest 1 => Campfire of the Wildbloods => Topic started by: Sutath on December 07, 2005, 04:38:09 PM

Title: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 07, 2005, 04:38:09 PM
not asking for a strat, just wondering if dod pets create a death add on Vish if they splat before their timer runs out?
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Oiingo on December 07, 2005, 04:51:42 PM
There was a patch message some time back which mentioned that NPCs (pets included) would not trigger adds.
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 07, 2005, 04:56:15 PM
thanks thats good news to me, any chance on a link of that patch message? would help me to convince raid leadership in using pets on Vish then
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Oiingo on December 07, 2005, 06:01:47 PM
I don't have a link, unfortunately.  I can provide a screenshot of my guild doing Vish with all the pets up if that would help convince your guild. :)
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Tastian on December 07, 2005, 06:23:31 PM
You should put a spoiler warning before that post O.  8P  Does your guild condone you letting people know some uber strats like using pets?  8P 
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 07, 2005, 06:40:24 PM
ty Oiingo for answering my question, i hope that wasn't some super secret strat lol, but serious was just a question if pet deaths created death adds, and since O said there was a patch about that i don't really think he was giving out a strat =)
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Dreead on December 07, 2005, 07:18:52 PM
I have a screenshot of pet spam deaths, since my slaining messages are filtered to a different box. If that might help you.

Oh yea, and my pet pet(not warder) has maybe died once, in our 10+ vish kills
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 07, 2005, 07:28:05 PM
can pm me the screenies and i can show guild leaders shots of pets up and dieing and not creating death adds. i am just tired of the "no pets" when between the dod pet and warder is a make up of our dps and we can't use them
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Dreead on December 07, 2005, 07:39:58 PM
I will do, when I go home for lunch. Bout 2 hours.
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 09, 2005, 12:54:22 AM
well still no luck on convincing raid leadership to let pets be used on raid =(
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Dreead on December 09, 2005, 08:06:27 AM
Ok, 3 different vish kills, 3 different days, 3 different screen shots.

It's the whole screen shot, not choped or anything, so posting in a different reply.

Chat 5 is slainings window, and i have my Pet Hits window also, it's obvious.
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Dreead on December 09, 2005, 08:07:43 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/Dreead/vishpet3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/Dreead/vishpet2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/Dreead/petvish.jpg)
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 09, 2005, 02:39:09 PM
thanks Dre, i'll show the ss and see if i can convince them, hopefully it works, i talked to the leader and he' s just scared to use pets on Vish, also worried about the push.

On another note Vish down to 18%, shouldn't be long and he'll be down
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Dummkopf on December 09, 2005, 03:03:50 PM
Well, dont have many screenies about vish since hes just an easy farming target to be done if nothing else is up. I dont use my warder on him because the mana and time used to keep him up is too much hassle compared to just chaining bestial empathy, however pets are certainly allowed and as i said i purely chain bestial empathy, mana isnt an issue since clouds refresh that anyway (the big thing is to keep trying to be oom just as the new mana hits :)).
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Kanan on December 09, 2005, 03:36:02 PM
that's how I tend to operate myself.  I will use the DoD pet extensively, and have just had warder being growl battery, since he's frankly useless due to the ae ramp.

We've not done as well as y'all have tho Sut, so /shrug.
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 09, 2005, 10:05:12 PM
update, am getting leadership to think about pets, biggest concern is the extra push
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Oiingo on December 09, 2005, 10:38:38 PM
Push works both ways and can be controlled.  Hint of the moment: Pets don't eat riposte damage.  Imagine your DPS if you could put all your melee at the back and have pets stay on the sides and front.  Oof!
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Shirrkarn Ayge on December 09, 2005, 10:47:25 PM
/shrug.. Took me about 2 months from recruiting to convince leader that pets were not the spawn of the devil . Till then it was 'NO PETS' regardless of mob
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Essant on December 10, 2005, 01:44:57 PM
Yea .. warder is definitely ramp bait on Vish so pretty worthless.  I usually do egg-calling duty tho, so i dont dps the dragon much if at all anyway.  Seems to make sense that those of us the wield blunt weapons call the eggs to get on em fast.

DoD pet .. yea sometimes .. usually close to the end of his life tho .. cos thats when it gets sketchy and you get to the point sometimes where you feel you need all the dps you can get to put him down.

Problem is push can be an issue .. and DoD pet pushes A LOT .. so  mind your position and try not to go too crazy chain casting DoD pet from one side with you on it.

You wanna keep Vish pretty stationary.

Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Sutath on December 21, 2005, 04:02:46 AM
well thought i'd put an update on here, Vishimitar dead--- still no pets allowed
Title: Re: DoD pet on Vish question
Post by: Constaq on December 21, 2005, 06:27:32 AM
I will blow thru 30k plus of mana on DD/dod pet  on vish.

1. it helps pin it against rocks if  you set up right
2. It dose not spawn a skelly nvr has. 
3. I use warder first 10% and last 25% usaly park the bear outside AE ramp so i can use Growl and can call it in to kill mana clouds.

when i joined PS they never allowed pets.. Mages and pet hold not a strong point :). Now we are dropping 4 werewolfs/ 4 mage garg. and what ever the necros do.  Pets get no resist like DD/Dots...

well thats what we do