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Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Bulge on January 09, 2004, 08:53:12 AM
http://fohguild.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10151

Sorry to break my own advice of letting the Yantis thing rest, but all these machinations in the mmorpg-industry interest me very much, so.....

Did Yantis simply want to buy the domain and not the community, so he can re-sell it to Sony later on for more money?

EDIT: Bah, already regret that I soiled the Campfire with this post, feel free to move to Rant. :(
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Pojodan on January 09, 2004, 09:15:09 AM
Hmmm.. sounds like a real 'Sadaam' problem to me.

Will this be the end of EQ as we know it?  or will it just be another strange non-issue that ends up being put in some stupid flash cartoon next year for us to laugh at?

Personally I'm going the 'it's a passing fad' way.  Yantis failed to aquire Allakhazam and several other key sites like EQDiva, so he and IGN certainly won't be taking over or starting a trend.  No doubt they'll both rake in cash on this endevor, but IMHO Yanti's purchase of EQbeastlord and EQDruid was a rather poor decision since what's the main feature of these websites?  The forums!  And anyone that visits these sites is 90% likely to browse forums and thusly already knows of item/play selling companies.


Anyhoo... I've learned how to spot 'ebayers' and can avoid them fairly easily, so the impact of all this is fairly light to me.
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Buku on January 09, 2004, 01:59:34 PM
For those of you that believe this please drop me a note. I have a bridge I want to talk to you about as an investment opportunity.

Why does anyone listen to that guy anyway? I guess the more important question is why does he still play a game he loves to bash?
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Bulge on January 09, 2004, 03:16:38 PM
Bah, I guess I was just in a conspiratory mood. :)

No thanks for the bridge, I still have one lying around unused in the garage....
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: renl on January 10, 2004, 02:51:18 AM
There is reason why Sony  may be looking into doing this.   Please remember this is my little opinion on the matter and nothing more.


In the EULA it states that all property belong to SOE this includes but does not limit to characters, items and coin.  So regarding Yantis and IGE are doing more than breaking the EULA they are breaking federal crimes.

YOu will all aggree with me that selling property that does not belong to oneself is illegal and i beleive that is called fencing.  Now you make a website and said these wares it becomes an federal crime and in violation of the FCC.  

The reason why Yantis and IGE are getting away with this is because they are using this little line as a loophole "We are not selling you the items we are selling the time that it took to acquire these items, coin etc."  In my opinion, since you are a company that solely sells said wares and you do not play the game that loophole should not be viable.


WIth that said,  Sony migth do this just to have a case against these criminals.  They will be selling there own property which is trademark of the SOE corporation and will have a better chance of shuting down Yantis and IGE for good.


It might be far fetched or I am just a crazy bastard on a keyboard. But I think it makes sense why there is a possibilty Sony is might do it
Title: Maybe
Post by: mac173 on January 14, 2004, 04:26:48 PM
Sony has been catering to the "instant gratification" type player for a while, with easier leveling, shared bank and plat slots, super XP zones like PC. They wouldn't suprise me much offering items or plat for RL money.

I don't think it would effect the game any more than yantis has, or all the changes to date.

I can't see SOE allowing the selling of established chars. They will let those chars go away, and sell all new chars created by them. They will not share the money, or the control. The option that they think will bring the most profit, is the one they will go with, regardless of gameplay issues, and they may think that EQ2 is going to drain EQ of players, so lets cash in now.
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Ooklak on January 19, 2004, 09:07:21 AM
Well, according to http://64.127.69.85/beastlord/zem.htm Crushbone is the same XP mod as Paludal.

And as for the rest of the "instant gratification" upgrades, I look at it as more of "we've done it the hard way long enough" than anything else.

Sony has listened to customer requests and put stuff in that was needed.

Don't think I'm a fanboy or anything, I just don't think Sony is catering to people any more than any company around that's actually listening to and improving their product the way any good company should.
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Nunyabiz on January 23, 2004, 05:18:04 AM
Yantis has been bought out by IGN BTW, so no more Yantis to blame all the world of Norranths woes on.
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Whiptail_Warclaw on January 23, 2004, 05:53:17 AM
Quote from: NunyabizYantis has been bought out by IGN BTW, so no more Yantis to blame all the world of Norranths woes on.

He's working for them now, so you can still blame him, if you like...  :wink:
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Murkk Dakruul on January 23, 2004, 08:42:04 AM
And blame I shall
Title: Was this the real reason Yantis bought the old forums?
Post by: Rhaynne on January 23, 2004, 03:55:02 PM
QuoteYantis has been bought out by IGN BTW

I wouldn't put too much stock in this actually being true.  The same thing has been reported in the past, the only difference being the amount of money paid out.