Just going to pick apart what was said by Muada.
QuoteIt was once an surmountable spirit, but it has learned and aged and grown too powerful for anyone to tame.
I think the Delirious Drogmor is the mob. The quote above implies the Animal used to be a mount that later escaped. Over time, it was no longer tame enough to ride and no one could re-tame it
QuoteIts spirit is imbued with a feral force that must be reclaimed by a beastlord. You must release the savage energy it has absorbed and return it to me.
It sounds to me that you must first get the feral force by killing the mob. Then, you have to "RELEASE the savage energy it has absorbed". This to me sounds like you have to find a way of altering it from the "Swirling Feral Essence" to it's released state. My suggestion would be to talk with Muada about how one might release the savage energy, perhaps you need to take it to another NPC or, more likely, you have to get a container with some other ingrediants to release the savage energy he talkes about before returning it to him. Remember, not everything an NPC replies to is in the magical [text] brackets
Someone do me a favor and cut and paste the information about this drogmar from the thread it was posted on... cant seem to find it. That or give me a location in Gunthak or what not please. Thank you.
Animist Dreambringer Daywarder - A.K.A "A.D.D"
THE Feral Lord of Rallos Zek
Proud member of Wudan
"The voice of the Wudan beasts"
I think this is the next logical step, the item of the Delerious Drogmor seems to fit the description especially when ID'ed.
Enchanters have a very similar step in theirs where they collect a drop from a Potamid underwater in Natimbi and then turn the drop into an NPC in Halls of Honor to have it "cleansed".
surmountable doesn't mean it used to be a mount...rofl.
Surmountable - to overcome.
Though, I also now believe that this is the correct monster.
The Gulf of Gunthak can be portrayed as the eye of a storm. In EQ Lore it was a storm that shipwrecked the Broken Skull Clan in Gunthak. Also, hurricanes are most common around a "gulf". Hurricanes, like tornados, have eyes in them...or calm spots with low barometric pressure.
I think we need to start killing in PoN again. That or the quest is currently bugged.
QuoteYou must also find and bring me the remains of a disturbed spirit in a realm of night terrors. I need to understand what has infected those ethereal beasts of late. Bring both to me.'
Just a thought; Nightstalkers are not particularly ethereal. Is it possible that there is a different mob in PoNightmare that fits this description a bit better? I was under the impression that there were ghost-esque mobs. Perhaps we should kill a few of those and see what we find.
Defeniton of Surmountable
1 obsolete : to surpass in quality or attainment : EXCEL
2 : to prevail over : OVERCOME <surmount an obstacle>
3 : to get to the top of : CLIMB
4 : to stand or lie at the top of
In this case, I'd say it was overcome. The drogmors in Gunthak are easy, like lvl 38-40. This beast is level 65 and hits like a small car.
Is he soloable for someone with my gear? I'm trying to get him to pop now, wondering if I should let clerics be on the ready:)
He can be agro kited, as he does not summon and there is an enormous area devoid of other mobs in which to run. Any beastlord who is doing the epic and has a clue, therefore, can solo him.
If you want to tank-solo him, be wearing Time/GoD gear to have a chance. He hits harder and faster than Ailing Walrus does.
Anyone have a location or some information on this drogmar please
Animist Dreambringer Daywarder - A.K.A "A.D.D"
THE Feral Lord of Rallos Zek
Proud member of Wudan
"The voice of the Wudan beasts"
Hehe, I'll hope I can do it than:)
There are two single Drogmor spawns where I've seen him spawn. One is to the west of the steps leading into the Castle and the Nadox zone in the southwest corner of Gunthak, the other is to the east. Both of these spawn points are on an approximately 12-minute timer, and either can spawn the Delirius Drogmor.
It is also possible, though unlikely, that he may spawn at any of the 3 rocks north of the steps leading to Nadox, among the 3-drogmor spawn points located at each; however, I have never seen him there, nor to my knowledge has anyone else.
Be patient; I saw him in less than 45 minutes of camping, but it's taken some people several hours. He does spawn, we promise.
Thank you Aeshmal.
Got him today. If any have a high level bard friend that is bored, it becomes very very easy. Bard just kited him around.
Cut/paste from Allakhazam's
Another new mob after OOW patch
Posted @ Wed, Sep 15th 8:33 PM 2004
By: Gryphonity
Delirious Drogmor, conned even to my 65 enchanter, scowls at everyone but doesn't aggro until you make it. Spawns in the southwest part of Gunthak near the castle entrance/Nadox zoneline. *Praying he drops a drum or something groovy*
~The following is an edit~
We went back the next night. I could only get a Beastlord, cleric, and another enchanter, all 65s. I had a dire charm pet and tried to do what I could while waiting for these guys to show up, and I managed to get him down to 87% before he turned on my SoW'd luggald DC pet and beat him down to 1% in three hits.
Anyway, the info you want: Not snareable or rootable, very mezzable and slowable though. Does not mitigate slow (57 enchanter spell Forlorn Deeds) Beastlord called Delirious Drogmor "a pansy" because he only quadded for 650.
Two minutes later the drogmor was dead. COINCIDENTALLY ENOUGH he dropped "Swirling Feral Essence" or something, (and not a ginormous black drum -_-) which sounded very beastlordish so we gave it to the beastlord in group. Just then we get a tell from someone asking "Who is Savage Lord Hunter in Gulf of Gunthak? Level 65 troll or ogre guy, looks like a beastlord", so our beastlord heads over to Savage Lord Hunter, yada yada yada Savage Lord Hunter and this Delirious Drogmor are part of BST epic 2.0.
. o 0(Damn I shoulda got a monk or something to tank, could've sold that essence...)
Sorry I dont like to cut/paste at best but this is some info
I hate to be a pessimist, but I'm starting to think perhaps its bugged. :?
Quote from: Bananeasurmountable doesn't mean it used to be a mount...rofl.
Surmountable - to overcome.
This is called a "punne" or a "play on wordes".
Has anyone tried giving the essence to the Savage Lord Hunter that is Gunthak?
Zmanone
Yes, he gave it back
Sounds weird but Rangers have to do specific things to their mobs in order to collect what they need for Epic 1.5.
Heard about another class not getting killshot and not being able to loot their epic piece.
Perhaps its how the Drog is killed or something needs to be done to him? Since loot is spawned with the mob it makes sense the piece would be on the corpse.. however perhaps the loot can change?
Grasping straws I know.
In the case of rangers, they have specific weapons (a lasso and a butterfly net) that they must use to "capture" the things they're fighting, rather than kill them. That's very specific to their epic, and so far should not apply to ours.
I was able to solo the Delerious Drogmar, blue to 66 and aggroed me before I was ready (my fault for getting to close). About 50/50 tanking and pet-clericing. I'm elemental-equipped level 66 with the 66 pet-heal (heals pet for 3084 in 6 secs with my aa and focus). Poison bounced, nukes landed. Used paragon and disciplines. Drog ran at 15% when I was at 10% mana and 40% health.
Pretty much confirmed things people already tried with the Swirling Feral Essence don't work....looking for ideas.
I realise what the Ranger epic entails. However I think we may be over looking something. Just throwing ideas out there. As it seems we are at a stand still and anything could be possible.
I did do a search in the Tailoring, Smithing, Brewing, Pottery, JC, and Fletching Trade Skill containers for anything with Feral, Spirit, Beast, and a few other words. All tradeskills are 250 and there were no known recipes.
Thought perhaps we may have had to make something with it or combine it with something to release the spirit.
I haven't been able to get enough time to spawn the drogmor yet, but has anyone tried killing w/ the stupid hat on? I hope its not that simple, but someone may wanna try it.
yah, I killed mine today with the hat on and got the same drop and response on turn in as everyone else.
Quote from: HayyelI realise what the Ranger epic entails. However I think we may be over looking something. Just throwing ideas out there. As it seems we are at a stand still and anything could be possible.
I did do a search in the Tailoring, Smithing, Brewing, Pottery, JC, and Fletching Trade Skill containers for anything with Feral, Spirit, Beast, and a few other words. All tradeskills are 250 and there were no known recipes.
Thought perhaps we may have had to make something with it or combine it with something to release the spirit.
Umm... tried just combining it in a mixing bowl or tailoring kit? Or possibly combining the droggy drop & the nightstalker drop together? Random idea to throw out. Fat chance, but meh, can't hurt to try.
someone posted about a barb elder in EF by the igloos Wonder if you can give it to him? or at least it might give us an idea of what hes for.
(for more info on toon its under the epic 2.0 forum.)
What about combining the essence with an essence emerald? I subscribe to the drogmar + crafted purification pass theory. :)
From what I have heard, he takes the Feral Essence but he doesn't take the piece from PoN. So I'm starting to think its bugged, or we have the wrong piece from PoN. It only makes sense if he hands it back.
"Its spirit is imbued with a feral force that must be reclaimed by a beastlord. You must release the savage energy it has absorbed and return it to me."
I think what Muada means by this is, we must release the savage energy that the BEAST has absorbed. We killed the drogmar and we have the savage energy, what more is there to be released.
QuoteFrom what I have heard, he takes the Feral Essence but he doesn't take the piece from PoN. So I'm starting to think its bugged, or we have the wrong piece from PoN. It only makes sense if he hands it back
read back some, he takes the pon drop not the drogamor drop
He took Demuk's Feral Essence and I think Demuk was the first to get it. But he didn't take his PoN piece.
Another thought; our epic already involves Tailoring, and we have this hat thing that the "uber beastlords" supposedly wear. Perhaps it's possible that the essence can be combined with our new hat in some way to yield a shiny new result that has the side effect of reclaiming the savage portion of the essence?
Just a thought. The feral essence and hat do not combine on their own in a normal sewing kit...perhaps with a needle it would work. Who knows? It simply seems very strange to me that we go and do all this work to make a hat with decidedly marginal stats and then don't bother to use it for much of anything.
I haven't gotten to that stage yet, but Muada did give a needle to make the hat with, correct? Was the needle consumed in the making of the hat? or is it still around?
The needle was consumed, Kanan, I was thinking the same thing when I read Aesh's post. Has anyone tried to do the hat portion to get the needle and use it in a sewing kit.
Another thought just occured to me, aren't we the only Vah Shir class that got tailoring as our "newbie" quest tradeskill? Remember the Stitching Pack (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=17237) we were given for that? Anyone tried to combine the essence in it?
Just to set the "what he takes" thing straight:
Feral Essence gets "I have no use for this"
the PoN Nightstalker essence gets "you must turn in all items at once to complete this step of your quest"
Not exact wording, but the jist is, the PoN drop is right, the Drogmor is not right, at least in it's current form.
Also, does everyone at this stage get the starting text when they hail him? Kind of like he doesn't remember, text-wise, what you've done so far?
Aye I got that. He talks to you like you are getting ready to do the whole thing over.
Say "believe" to Muada to get the text for the third (most current) step.
Yep.. was confused by that.
Tried combining the feral essence alone, then with the hat, then with the nightmares drop in a sewing kit. No dice. Something else is missing or we're on the wrong track.
Here's what I see:
Elder Animist Muada says 'Very well then. We, the elders, all carry and often wear a [Helm] of the Feral. It is a cap that each of us creates to channel the essence of the wild through our minds and bodies. If you are planning to attempt to walk with us in our battle against the chaos of the dark realm, then you will need to fashion your own.'
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Elder Animist Muada says 'At the eye of the storm in the sky, there are rumors of a hungry beast. It was once an surmountable spirit, but it has learned and aged and grown too powerful for anyone to tame. Its spirit is imbued with a feral force that must be reclaimed by a beastlord. You must release the savage energy it has absorbed and return it to me. We will return it to the spirit world at once.'
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And then, later in the quest, we get this "Swirling Feral Essence." If memory serves, it identifies as
a wild and untamed essence (or spirit? I don't remember).
This just feels too much like a match to me. I have to believe the helm is important for more than just a little prize one gets for starting one's epic.
tried to wear the hat and 'release the essence" haven't gone through all the word combos i can think of yet, but so far not working, tho maybe it "All the elders" have this cap one of them will channel it for us..seems like we need to go find them again..or the "alladun/Undalla/aulin" guy or "mikkily" that we still haven't found.. maybe with the name change on Undalla something will come up on track. /crosses fingers/and toes/and eyes/ ect ect
Anyone tried handing the hat and the essences back to him?
Stupid idea, but what the heck....
Has anyone tried to actually summon their warder while in a zone? Like Maidens Eye or something along those lines?
If you go with the theory that our warders are conqureed/controled spirits by us, the beastlords, then this might be the key. Try to summon up a warder in the zone and get a spirit that is corrupted and can't be controlled?
/shrug - just another 2cp for the pile of ideas so far.
How bout wearing the hat while killing the drog. I know a stretch, but hell at this point I'm grasping at straws.
If you go to shadeweavers and look up at norrath, Faydark and CB look like they are in the eye of the storm... Corrupted isn't up on Povar as of now but I'm guessing there is a fair chance he may drop something.
[edit] pained did not drop anythign when i killed it, looking for corrupted.
stupid double posts
Try combining it with a copy of the mage spell "reclaim energy"
tried that in a brewery, nada, didn't try others
Handed the swirling feral essence to the iksar Animist in OT with interesting results.
a) I got the "trumpet" noise
b) she took the essence (didnt give it back)
c) she then said something like "I don't have time for people who have nothing to say".
Essence is gone (not that I care), no new items in my inventory. She wouldn't accept any other item I tried giving her (she just handed them back).
Is this a clue? Anyone care to try any of the other animists in this fashion?
OMG MOSS!! the dude in WW did NOT do that.. now to figure this out... were you wearing the hat at the time?
Well then, sounds like we have something to say to her before we give it to her. I'm guessing asking the right key word will give you a flag then you'll be able to hand it in. :)
Quote from: a_moss_snake_001Handed the swirling feral essence to the iksar Animist in OT with interesting results.
a) I got the "trumpet" noise
b) she took the essence (didnt give it back)
c) she then said something like "I don't have time for people who have nothing to say".
Essence is gone (not that I care), no new items in my inventory. She wouldn't accept any other item I tried giving her (she just handed them back).
Is this a clue? Anyone care to try any of the other animists in this fashion?
I can confirm this happening. Wouldnt have risked it if I couldn't get another essence though (2 delirious drogs up atm). Kicking myself though for not also handing her the Disturbed Beast Essence to see if that was needed to complete the step or something. Will try when I get another feral essence. Will also go and talk with Muada to see if anything changed
EDIT: Went back to OT to hand the beast essence in, no dice. Said she didn't need it. Went back to Muada as well and no new leads. On the plus side, there's a patch for Thursday, perhaps it'll add more hints or fix something.
sounds like the disturbed droggy is a later part of the quest... and prolly the beast in ME is the other item we need for this particular step
Anyone tried handing the essence to the right "race" elder? Like CT for Ogre, OT for Iksar and so on....
The essence is not for this step of epic, 2nd part has been confirmed from ME
QuoteHanded the swirling feral essence to the iksar Animist in OT with interesting results.
a) I got the "trumpet" noise
b) she took the essence (didnt give it back)
c) she then said something like "I don't have time for people who have nothing to say".
Essence is gone (not that I care), no new items in my inventory. She wouldn't accept any other item I tried giving her (she just handed them back).
Is this a clue? Anyone care to try any of the other animists in this fashion?
Hehe, I can see now that I was trying to do step 4 of the quest before step 3;) No wonder she told me to go away.