Hehe aren't all issues epic? 8P
Seriously though there are some issues with our epic quest that don't seem to make sense or work very well. I'm trying to get a compiled list of possible bugs or things that need looking into. Please don't mention balance type of issues in this thread. I don't want to hear about more dmg or extra agi or whatever lol. Below are some of the issues I've seen and already passed along, but I'm trying to get one combined list together now that the quest has been finished that I can pass along.
- The epic effect seems to have stacking issues
- The elder in WW is Ready to Attack
- The beast in ME doesn't always have the item /boggle
Any other issues please post here or PM/e-mail me as usual. I know some have mentioned they felt the quest text was vague in spots, etc.
It's not an issue now, but npcs accept items before they are suppose to... which makes them eat it. Happened to me on 2 occassions, if you are following the quest closely and doing everythign in order it wont be a problem, we were pioneering so those things sucked.
Imo make them not accept items until they are supposed to.
The text Muada gives about the "Eye of the Storm in the Sky" is misleading due to him being on Luclin. Would be better to just have the "in the Sky" part removed.
Quote from: GarlThe text Muada gives about the "Eye of the Storm in the Sky" is misleading due to him being on Luclin. Would be better to just have the "in the Sky" part removed.
Aye, or change it to something ike "Eye of the Storm near the darkened plain", or something like that. Just so it doesn't seem like the next part is on Norrath.
I think the elder in WW is supposed to be KOS, read his text
Some problems with the right click effect on weapon:
The Proc doesn't work
The entire effect is pretty useless since its only active for 1 minute out of every 10
Apparently, the proc works fine....if you don't already have a proc on the warder. :\
again which makes it useless :p
I have yet to look at it closely, but it isn't impressing me as of yet. I have this odd feeling it adds 5dps for 1 min every 10 mins lol. The avoidance and hps is nice, but i havent soloed with it yet.
And yea.. the proc doesn't work if you have a proc on your pet already, which is BROKE imo.
Very few people I know let their pet tank, so the defensive crap is just that....crap.
This is a very poor effect imo, and I'm thinking up ideas to make it better.
I'm not sure you are going to get the 1 minute out of every 10 fixed seeing as most(every?) epic is exactly the same way, quite clearly this was intended.
They should make the proc go to the warder and give us a recourse with all that defensive/other bonuses that's on the click, would make a lot more sense, there's precident for it via Bond of the Wild.
If they really wanted to make a cool click effect that is about being one with your warder, then they should just have the right-click give you your pet's proc effect, whatever it's got at that moment. If your pet has Rellic on, you get Rellic, but with a shorter duration. I'd love to actually see you get all your pet's effects on you, if you've got an uber buffed pet, this would be almost overpowering, but it would be cool.
Instead though I'd rather see it be a pet proc that gives you an extra pet, but instead of being floating cloaws, make it a random BST class pet (wolf, bear, cat, alligator or scaled wolf). As it stands, the effects are worthless.
Since at this level, pets don't tank very often, and seeing they want to keep the "every 10 minutes" thing, how about giving the same effect to BOTH the warder and the beastlord.
In general, while the stats are nice, I just feel like this weapon's effect are pretty weak.
Oh, and what exactly IS strikethrough? My instincts say this lets me ignore AC on the mob maybe?
Strike-through is an innate thing that basicly gives you an increased chance for you to not be effected by a mob's deffensive skills: such as Block, dodge, ripo, ect...
Basicly, you hit mobs bit more often :p
Ok, pretty much what I was thinking, then.
I'd still like to see the clicky affect both my warder AND me (and get the stacking with Rellic issue fixed too).
i got a weird bug myself.. i handed in the items in order to muadah, he gave me the helm stuff. so far all seemed well so i made the helm, equipped it, he gave me the letter. once i got the 5 elders (btw CT elder was a pain in the neck.. i wasnt able to climp on the side of the pyramid until the last 2 floors :( ) and handed the "signed" letter back to muada, he ate it and restarted the quest from the beginning (the 4 items to make the helm). i contacted a GM, he gave me back every items (letter and the helm stuff) but when i tried to restart again, it did the exact same thing >.< he ate the letter and the 4 other items, did not even give me the helm pattern or the needle. so right now, i beleive this part might have some coding error cause i spoke to other people that had the same problem. but it's too painful to get back every items again. i'm ep flagged but no ep gear except SPF so i cant tank gryme and require help, but not being in a raiding guild, it's almost impossible for me to get a tank for him =/ and aramin is always up and eats me before i get to the grass..
Quote from: Firrianni got a weird bug myself.. i handed in the items in order to muadah, he gave me the helm stuff. so far all seemed well so i made the helm, equipped it, he gave me the letter. once i got the 5 elders (btw CT elder was a pain in the neck.. i wasnt able to climp on the side of the pyramid until the last 2 floors :( ) and handed the "signed" letter back to muada, he ate it and restarted the quest from the beginning (the 4 items to make the helm). i contacted a GM, he gave me back every items (letter and the helm stuff) but when i tried to restart again, it did the exact same thing >.< he ate the letter and the 4 other items, did not even give me the helm pattern or the needle. so right now, i beleive this part might have some coding error cause i spoke to other people that had the same problem. but it's too painful to get back every items again. i'm ep flagged but no ep gear except SPF so i cant tank gryme and require help, but not being in a raiding guild, it's almost impossible for me to get a tank for him =/ and aramin is always up and eats me before i get to the grass..
I thought this was bugged too but you need to say only the key word and not the whole phrase because the whole phrase has the keyword for the first part of the epic.
i did. i only said "beleive" the 2nd time and it still restarted from the start. 1st time i said "i beleive" and it did too. =/ thanks for the input tho
Also theres an issue with the final battle ...
I did the turnin, ran to the fight, and returned (all this within like 15 mins) and when i got back the npc had despawned ...
Kinda lame when your excited about finally finishing and you have to petition ....
QuoteAlso theres an issue with the final battle ...
I did the turnin, ran to the fight, and returned (all this within like 15 mins) and when i got back the npc had despawned ...
Kinda lame when your excited about finally finishing and you have to petition ....
Not really bugged. Erana seems to be up 2 hours and then down 2 hours. It could be that it was just bad luck in timing (or good luck considering you were able to start battle when you had the people). All that is needed is to wait the 2 hours or so for Erana to respawn to do hand-in, petition isn't needed. Or it just might be that Erana is set to despawn a little bit after hand in /shrug.
As for the epic effect they need to make it similar to the Mend Companion AA ability. Have the spell land on pet but don't autotarget. Makes actually clicking the epic a pain in the ass because of losing target of what we are attacking. Broken many mezzes from clicking epic and trying to retarget the mob. (Since the previous target button targets me afterward whenever casting a spell that autotargets pet)
QuoteErana seems to be up 2 hours and then down 2 hours.
She is, but she also seems to despawn shortly after you turn in the cloak. I started the fight about an hour and a half before she should have despawned accoring to my timing - she was gone 10 minutes later when I headed back over. Still, waiting two hours isn't a huge problem.
Epic clicky would kick arse if it proc stacked with other pet procs. I'm considering not to rellic my pet so I can use epic clicky proc: 250dd -50 resist which fires almost with every hit is truely amazing.
Quote from: GarlThe text Muada gives about the "Eye of the Storm in the Sky" is misleading due to him being on Luclin. Would be better to just have the "in the Sky" part removed.
Also, from the text after completing 1.5: "I suppose many worlds have strife, but Norrath is in grave danger and folk all over argue and bicker like never before. To this day, the Vah Shir have been battling with the grimlings."
It appears whoever wrote this series of quests has Norrath and Luclin confused. :P
Giving this proc to both bst and pet would be nice(even too nice) for soloing but make it useless on raids(can you say aggro-splat?). Just make it stack and its great clickie. We dont need i-r-teh-win clickie this one is nice dps burst every 10 mins with 0 aggro for us, more than worth the effort involved in getting epic even if ya dont count in the club :D
Worried about agro spat? They could just make the proc generate 0 agro. Easy fix.
I heard someone mention last night that with the proc rate the epic clickie has it adds around 65 dps to the pet for its duration. Anyone able to confirm this?
Can't comment on the epic itself, as I am STILL stuck on the ME drop.
I have about 12 hours into the camp now with ONE spawn of the named, and no drop.
I don't mind putting some time into a quest, but long spawn times for a mob that doesn't even drop the needed quest piece is beyond ridiculous.
Not to mention, it can be very hazardous to your guildmates health when they go to the same camp, stay an hour, get one spawn with the needed drop. :shock:
I'm going to keep at it until I get it, but I seriously hope this is changed for all upcoming 1.5 questers.
Nalitra
Quote from: SnowmeowI heard someone mention last night that with the proc rate the epic clickie has it adds around 65 dps to the pet for its duration. Anyone able to confirm this?
I haven't seen a streak that high, but I did see it proc 15 times for its duration. That's about 3750 total damage if they all landed for full (although if you're looking for dps added, you'd have to subract from that the damage that rellic would have done because both of them don't proc). That's 62.5 dps for the duration, but it's considerably less overall dps because of the recast, i.e., 6.25 dps.
From my logs, Rellic seems to average 4-6 ppm (620-930 dmg). If you have Irionu and the same proc rate then you'd be looking at subtracting out (760-1140) in damage. So you're looking at a dps *increase* of anywhere from 4.35 to 5.23 over time.
I should note that the 15 was my luckiest streak so far. Dunno if that's the average, but it probably is based on what the mages are reporting.
I was just testing out the clicky and I only did one fight, so this is no where near accurate.
Pofire GY Spider:
After one minute the mob's hps decreased from 95-85%. (no rellic, cause of the clicky issue)
I clicked the epic, and the hps when from 85-65% before it wore off.
It seems as though it's a decent upgrade but don't take my word for it. Wait for Tastian or another beast to come up with official and accurate parses.
It needs work imo though.
as stated before i dont dont mind long camps all quests like epics should involve something like it. sorta seperates the dedicated to the not dedicated people. but atleast fix it so it drops everytime or as a common drop not this rare crap.
Twenty hour camps in a green infested zone are boring and pointless, there is no question of dedication.
Move the 20 hour camp to an XP zone and will give you at least something to do in the spare time.
Edit: NM I figured it out...
As long as you get savage blessing to land before arag and relic...it works...if it lands after...it doesn't. Is this the way it is intended?
No and in multiple threads now it's been mentioned that this is going to be fixed very soon.
Did the hand ins for all 5 and the speaches, got back to Muada and says not completed, doing handins again :(
Sounds like you didnt say your "text" after each hand in..
You can thank sony for the Invis. Faction hit..
Quote from: GeriniSounds like you didnt say your "text" after each hand in..
You can thank sony for the Invis. Faction hit..
You don't need to do the follow up text after each one - I didn't in a couple of cases. (In fact, you
can't do it with the Troll in Western Wastes unless you're a Vah Shir and can sneak up behind him.)
I rehailed them again and hand ins and worked, must have messed up somewhere, was the OOT one that didnt work, nm working again.
CT was fun though doing twice.
Why did the beastlord epic get switched from glowing wolverine claws to an ugly over-sized cartoon totem pole? Simply ugly. Not as ugly as the shaman epic 1.5, but it's a close second for winning the ugly epic contest.
I guess I'm one of the few who liked the glowing claws before on the old epic. If the developers could only have made them fit all the character models correctly and gotten rid of the useless hand-shield graphic, the beastlord epic 1.0 would hands down be the most awesome looking epic of them all.
Quote from: SkratchenWhy did the beastlord epic get switched from glowing wolverine claws to an ugly over-sized cartoon totem pole? Simply ugly. Not as ugly as the shaman epic 1.5, but it's a close second for winning the ugly epic contest.
I like mine - looks fairly wild and troll-like. Since the old epics never fit troll hands, (as you mention) I wasn't all that thrilled with them.
I went an did the letter hand in over in WW this morning, Trollie was indifferent to me (I'm an Ogre).
Gurbark
Wasn't sure if I'd seen anyone else mention it yet, but another issue with the 1.5 clicky is that it gets wasted even if effect doesn't hold. Had warder run out of range after clicking and spell didn't land. Still had to wait on recast. 8(
That sounds like the same issue with every buff that has a recast, same happens for example if you cast Fero and the target runs oor during casting.
By the way, I'm using a little quick fix around the problem with the epic clicky not overstacking with other pet proc buffs:
1. Summon your pet.
2. Put 1 junk buff on your pet.
3. Buff your pet up like you normally would (including your standard spell pet proc buff)
4. Cancel magic your pet. If the cancel magic takes off a different buff instead of your junk, rebuff the buff that was taken off. Repeat this until the junk buff comes off.
5. Enjoy your fully buffed pet with an empty first slot and dont fill it up!
So, apparently, the spell procs are not set by how long the proc has been on, but , simply, which is in the highest slot.
Yeah it's always been highest buff on the list works. The problem with this is if you have pet affinity. Between group buffs, ninja buffs and bard songs it's impossible for me to keep pet buffs up. Also I've had epic click take hole a few times when I simply didn't want it to because I wound up losing the stun portion of spirit of xxx. I really, really hope the epic effect is fixed with tomorrows patch. I kinda like the effect, but with all the bugs and issues it currently has I almost never bother even clicking it.
Epic stacking not fixed as of 10/12 on Test, so I wouldnt hold your breath.
But on the plus side, you will get timed pet buffs and be able to invis and keep pet :)
Supposedly the (in)frequency of the ME drop will be fixed tomorrow as well - we'll see.
Yeah even a dev has commented directly on the other boards that the rate would be fixed tomorrow. I'm still waiting on a copy over to test so I couldn't test the 1.5 effect. 8(
Originally they said it wouldn't be that hard because the code just wasn't added for pets like it was for players. I don't think it'd go live without hitting test first though, so if it never showed up there we might have to wait another patch before it's fixed. Is the 1.5 atleast clicking from inventory on test? That was another little change that was supposed to happen.
Okay rounded up a group and killed Gryme. Looted the key...couldn't open the door. Key in the inventory, key on the cursor, log off, log back on....the door wouldn't freaking open! There is only ONE door into the castle right? What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Dimo
Lots and LOTS of doors in EQ are extremely hard to click open with keys.
100% way to open door:
Hold key on inventory, get close to door, press U(default UI) key, this is your ... execute key or, open key, will open doors around you.
I am HAVING SERIOUS ISSUES on Cazic Thule NPC turn in .....I cant seem to get there without 50 mobs on me at once. Is there any adice on style, route, grp class or strategy that will help me.....?
:mrgreen: Frazzled atm so please anyone able to lend advice, its appreciated
Jatash Lightningpaw
Master of Beasts of Xegony
Cazic Thule,
Unless you are Vah Shir and can sneak you need to get a group and head to the pyramid. There are lots of see invis mobs on the way and many adds so I would suggest bringing crowd control. I did this 2 weeks ago with 2 BL, cleric, druid, wizzard and mage. Our version of crowd control was we could control 5 at a time lol. We beat out way to and up the pyramid was a fun little trip. There are quite a few wanderers around the pyramid base and they are sowed so expect adds. Other option I have heard used is to have a necro drag your corpse there and rezz you using FD along the way to loose mob aggro. I must say that it was quite satisfying to smack my way to CT NPC after a couple of earlier failed attempts.
I am a troll and i ran right up to him invis dodging the see invis carefully w/o aggroing an mobs. read 1.5 forum for thread on how to run the wall to get to the top of pyramid.
Using U on the default UI worked like a charm. I had the key from Gryme on my cursor, stood infront of the door with the key/cursor on the door, hit U, and VIOLA it opened. We had 11 peeps avg lvl of 62 (one toon was 55 otherwise the highest was 69 with most of us at or above 62, we owened the spider, however his adds upon death wiped us. Nice ring dropped but it was lore and we didn't have time to loot the other ring...oh well. Kill the spider ninja loot, succor, and roll for the goodies is the plan next time. I did get my ground spawn as well.
OK i got all done...have killer notes on all mobs for anyone needing them.
Now ...i am hearing mixed issues on girplan....any new info b4 i attempt this...do i need a 72 man raid force lool.....
need to se this up fast, so any advice again is appreciated.....
Jatash Lightningpaw
Master Beastlord of Xegony