Recent Fero Parses

[Shamno]

Higher AC value on mobs will increase the possibility of the use of fero.

It will probably have a lot to content with though.

Additional ranks with attack cap increase will come into play....if there is any.

How much AC is needed to see an reasonable return for fero?...will it be to much or to little.

Higher AC on mobs good for fero....bad for pet scaling, which is also another problem our class faces. As some might not care, but I think this is just throwing one part of our class further down the whole for a possible glimpse of getting one of our utilities somewhat working.

To me I think this is a pretty bad band aid fix.

[Spiritclaw]

I personally use it on a regular basis, however I'm not at the softcap.  Once I can get Katta ally armor, I would probably break softcap with SV alone.

[Snowblind]

Shamno is talking about what Im interested in, 2-5 times/night on boss type mobs, higher ac, higher level, end game content, which really just makes parsing and seeing results, keeping all equipment and buffs consistent, etc., more difficult.  I dont want it for trash or anything equal level or below.

[Urim]

Increasing AC on mobs is terrible plan to make Ferocity more useful. I hope that is not the route SoE is going to take. Just paste more AC onto mobs and leave it as the crappy do-nothing buff it is and claim its now better.

[Bumkus]

Two 30 minute parses on Bear with/without Fero.  Not very long test, but i expected a bigger impact.

Bear with self buffs:

Infusion of Spirit
Spiritual Vim Rank II
Unparalled Voracity Rank II
Spirit of Lairn Rank II
Minion of Eternity Focus

30 Minute:
Pet Melee DPS - 175
Pet Lairn Proc DPS - 35
>>Total Pet DPS - 210

Same buffs + Ruthless Ferocity Rank II
30 Minute:
Pet Melee DPS - 177
Pet Lairn Proc DPS - 36.5
>>Total Pet DPS - 213.5

[Khauruk]

Two 30 minute parses on Bear with/without Fero.  Not very long test, but i expected a bigger impact.

A - iirc (somebody please(!) correct me if wrong....our pets are summoned with our stats.  That may be total crap, but that's what I recall reading somewhere/when.  If so, our pets will have reasonable attack from naturally high STR.

B - TSS Pet haste has +106 attack (rank 2) already.

C - what was your target?

[Nusa]

A - Summoned pets take the owners resists as I understand it, if they're higher than the pets natural resists.  I've not heard anything about other stats.
B - Yup, but it's not something that's different between the two parses. SV has +attack as well, if you're counting.

[Khauruk]

B - Yup, but it's not something that's different between the two parses. SV has +attack as well, if you're counting.

I should have expounded....with +atk on both SV and our pet haste, our pets are likely at/near the 2k+ attack.  Hence, the low gains from Ferocity that Bumkus saw.

Focused pets may also have an increased attack along with the higher max hit....I have never heard anything yea/nay about that.

[Bumkus]

Sorry.  Should have mentioned that Target was Exterminator Sutton again.  I kinda hate using him, because his AC is probably a bit low.  But he has enough HP while doing low damage to me that I can collect data while afk'ing.

[Khauruk]

Sorry.  Should have mentioned that Target was Exterminator Sutton again.  I kinda hate using him, because his AC is probably a bit low.  But he has enough HP while doing low damage to me that I can collect data while afk'ing.

Aye, AC will be low due to his level, but level differences also act like increased attack rating - more max hits/higher hits.  Oh well...we're not on Test so we work with what we have.

[Sikkem]

Wyccas parse has been talked about a  bit so I chased it down and am posting it here for reference.

Sorry its jumbled have bolded the dps figues for ease.

I realized I gained some attack from the level boost, and since the parse wasn't fluctuating majorly (and a 0.5dps fluctuation wouldn't change the results of the parse much), I decided to not go above the 5hr parse I have of fero.

Sorry for the formatting size, but I don't know how to shrink it.

Parse results officially-

Ferocity = 11.7dps boost (it needs major help, more than simply more attack)

Lvl 71 (no skill changes from 70 though, merely the 5 cap raise on stats)- 150accuracy, 75 combat effects, 300worn attack (i use tribute to hit it fyi), etc etc maxed, my gear is in my sig.

Buffs - Fist of Wu, Cry Havoc, Thieve's Eyes, Ancient : Call of Power, War March of the Muram, Storm Blade, Symphony of Battle, Strength of the Hunter, Howl of the Predator, Talisman of Wunshi, Champion, Talisman of Might, Spirit of Bih'Li, Hastening of Salik, Spirit of the Panther, Ferocity of Ironu, the bard buffs are maxed with appropriate drum/etc, AA, and puretone just fyi via lvl 70 betabuff.

Parse #1 - No fero

Offensive Damage for Wycca, by Type
Damage By Kills Total Duration DPS ADPS AD Max Avg Min Accuracy Evasion Defense Hits Misses Blocks Dodges Magic Parries Ripostes
[ Total ] 0 16529620 05:15:12 874.03 874.03 10 800 241.51 6 74.27% 0.00% 0.00% 68442 23716 0 0 0 0 0
Critical Magic 0 200464 05:14:28 10.62 10.60 257 800 270.53 100 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 741 0 0 0 0 0 0
Critical Punch 0 3816366 05:15:11 201.81 201.80 29 735 482.17 104 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 7915 0 0 0 0 0 0
Magic 0 2020527 05:15:08 106.86 106.84 27 800 248.50 6 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 8131 0 0 0 0 0 0
Punch 0 10492263 05:15:12 554.79 554.79 10 735 203.12 25 68.53% 0.00% 0.00% 51655 23716 0 0 0 0 0
Damage report by YALP using a DPS run interval of 600


Parse #2 - With Fero

Offensive Damage for Wycca, by Type
Damage By Kills Total Duration DPS ADPS AD Max Avg Min Accuracy Evasion Defense Hits Misses Blocks Dodges Magic Parries Ripostes
[ Total ] 0 44189972 13:51:28 885.78 885.78 10 800 245.56 3 74.00% 0.00% 0.00% 179954 63212 0 0 0 0 0
Critical Magic 0 501588 13:50:46 10.06 10.05 263 800 263.44 4 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 1904 0 0 0 0 0 0
Critical Punch 0 10081922 13:51:23 202.11 202.09 29 735 490.51 104 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 20554 0 0 0 0 0 0
Magic 0 5357066 13:51:27 107.38 107.38 26 800 247.54 3 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% 21641 0 0 0 0 0 0
Punch 0 28249396 13:51:28 566.26 566.26 10 735 207.94 29 68.25% 0.00% 0.00% 135855 63212 0 0 0 0 0
Damage report by YALP using a DPS run interval of 600

Wycca - 75 Monk - Triality - Vazaelle

[Khauruk]

Thanks!  Great to have.

[jitathab]

A 30 minute parse is going to be inaccurate, so really shouldnt read much into it.
Wycca's parse shows one area of damage actually went down because of Fero, not by much 0.5dps but it did.

[Bumkus]

A 30 minute parse is going to be inaccurate, so really shouldnt read much into it.
Wycca's parse shows one area of damage actually went down because of Fero, not by much 0.5dps but it did.

You're right that 30 minute is not enough to measure an accurate gain, but it should at least show whether there IS a gain.  The problem with Fero is that the gains fall inside the noise margin for relatively short parses.  Yet it is a short duration buff so we should expect a more signifigant short term gain.

Panther show pretty immediate gains, even in short parses.  I would expect the gains from Wunshi (or similar) to be smaller, but those are long term buffs, not burst buffs like Fero.  Remember, with the long refresh timer, we can only keep Fero on 3 people at any one time.  We aren't even loading a whole group up on it.

[Lenoth]

Where are you Snowblind? I'm not protective of the Ferocity spell, so we should get a few parses done

Lenoth Erazor
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