I was making this thread here (http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Veterans&message.id=328636) and I just began to wonder. Do beastlords often use their DoD secondary pet? I'm just asking because I don't see it very often. Is it inefficient or something?
Yes, I chain it as it pops during most raid fights.
I use it all the time myself. I just was playing with parsing last raid against Shyra. Pinned against wall raid mob thats just all out DPS burn for 5 mins. Well this fight went 5.50 mins long and I parsed 584 DPS. my warder 190 DPS and BE pet 100.7 DPS. Thats chain casting the EP pet for the entire fight.
Another guildie parsed the raid as well and while his numbers werent identical to mine... (had me at 573 ....warder 136 and EP pet 115) EP pet still dishing out decent damage on both parses.
I use it instead of nukes any time the fight will last more than 20 seconds. It's amazingly mana-efficient, unresistable damage. It rocks.
Yes, BE gets used constantly in burn situations...and it's usually a better damage/mana ratio than our nukes.
Use it all the time in raid and group content BE pet is nice no agro boost to dps where our nukes/ rake/ jaggedclaw can bring sometimes unwanted agro.
If I had mine I would spam the hell out of it. What I get for taking time off of EQ and comming back when it seems everyone is done with the spell missions and want nothing to do with them any longer.
This is from the lvl 68 series correct?
I wasted time getting the TSS dog whistle....such a GIANT waste of time when you compair difficulty to reward....guess it would have been easier with the right group but what ever.
Always use it on raids, but less so in groups apart from on LoD burns, and always on soloing now. When soloing can use it to build agro, then i slow it.
I use mine all the time. Nice dps boost.
Yep, used as often as i can and as often as I remember it. I try to save it for named mobs on raids though
BE pet is a wonderful device, more so when you get the DPoB item to reduce mana by 25%. Of course, I don't have it, yet, but I'm looking forward to owning it. $$
Our BE pet mana cost is no where near what RS costs mana wise so it is used most often as a nuke (or replacing a nuke gem slot) and I think is cast upon refresh typically. I believe you are a, or mostly a, non raider. If in your grouping you haven't seen Bsts use this pet/spell it is because of the 68.3 boss "hurtle" that has been such that non-raiding folks/guilds weren't able to complete the arc. My guess is once the bulk of players hit 75 you will see more and more Bsts use this spell.
Yup, I use it all the time in groups and on raids where there isn't a danger of the pet going to the wrong mob. Taiglin stole the point I was going to make. A fair number of BL seem to not have it because the 68.3 boss is very hard.
I use BE all the time if I am solo'n grouping, or raiding he is almost always out. I just checked my logs (which I haven't deleted in a long time) and my BE pet did 2,656,801 damage in 5 hours of use with a 147 DPS with Anguish focus and all pet aa's except for the new TSS stuff.
BE pet was a serious stroke of genius. It's filled alot of our needs - more dps, less aggro, plus a coolness factor. I've used it as a stopgap tank to give me time to run to zone or whatever. Kudos to the devs or whoever thought of it.
About the only drawback is that it doesn't scale real well. It does use our AAs and pet foci (I guestimate each foci level adds 8 dps or so to this pet along with 2 dps to our warder), but I imagine we'll need an upgrade at some point.
constantly
If the beastlord isn't using it they aren't DPSing.
It is one of our top 2 spells.
Next to heal, of course. =D
I cast BE about 100x more often than all my other spells combined. One of the best things to happen to BST's in many, many expansions.
Has anyone actually parsed the latest pet focii on the BE pet, the raw data shows a minimum level of 71 for the focii.
Someone just posted on SOE's forums that the new TSS focus' are a minimum level of 71 so our BE pet is unfocused unless we are using an older pet focus, in addition to the new focus. Not that I'll probably ever see the new focus :p
All the more reason they need to give us an upgrade to BE at 75~!! 8P
That'd be crazy. It was hard enough getting the first one, I couldn't imagine being able to get the second short of a mini-raid.
As has been said, HELL YES I use it. Always, 99% of all situations. I Love it! unresistable dmg, no buffing it, no healing it, just freakin chain it! Great range dmg too. There is generally not a darn thing negative about it...well...other than this one time
Triis Swallows, DP.I tried to sneak a second cast of it in during the burn, it lingered, and dps'd when it wasn't supposed.../rs "SABB...PET HOLD...PET HOLD...grumble grumble "
Looks around.../rs err..*shifty eyes* guys..I have zero control of that pet once cast =/
heh. yes. The dod pet is the best damned thing they have done ofr us in a long time. And dbl atk. But bump the skill pls :evil:
Probably my most cast spell after slow.
I don't bother casting Slow unless I'm in a group as slower, raiding when we lack shamans/chanters, or taking on something angry. I use it to pull, but that doesn't count.
it is my single most cast spell, period. I nuke less than I cast this.
At the present moment, as you're observing in your eqforums post, getting the TSS focus will actually be a detriment vs the DP focus, bcs the BE pet would not be affected by the TSS focus, and therefore the DP focus actually affecting it makes the TSS one a waste and detriment. Since a change in the focus is highly unlikely to be forthcoming, both magi & bsts need an upgrade at 75 (mebbe 74 for magi.. I've honestly not looked to see where it would be more appropriate) to their single swarm pet spells.
Alot! I'd rather cast BE non-stop, then waste mana on our lousy icenukes which are resisted WAY to much! I was lucky enough to be able to do the 68.1 thru 68.5 with a bunch of people who was running thru then for their alts.
On raids I use it everytime it pops. And it rocks for duels too :wink:
I believe mages got a similar "short-burst" DOD pet for 68 missions - but THOSE I have yet to see in groups/raids.
Now I just wanna get the pet-proc Savage Platinum Claws from Fire and I can have 3 *pets* at the same time!! oh joy! *chuckle*
KitKat
Mages get it with the 70 arc actually and from what I read it is a beast. My mage longs for it like my Bst longs for the 68 arc one.
Quote from: Kitathia on December 05, 2006, 06:17:09 PM
Now I just wanna get the pet-proc Savage Platinum Claws from Fire and I can have 3 *pets* at the same time!! oh joy! *chuckle*
My dream is to get sufficient CE to be able to have up 3 of the fist pets. Think 2 was most I'd ever had up before ;p Tho, I've not really used the spf in a long time either. Heh.. those were so much fun ;p
Quote from: Kanan on December 05, 2006, 08:57:55 PM
My dream is to get sufficient CE to be able to have up 3 of the fist pets. Think 2 was most I'd ever had up before ;p Tho, I've not really used the spf in a long time either. Heh.. those were so much fun ;p
Hehe I meant the DOD pet - Tigger and how ever many pets the fists will proc all at the same time :)
*greedy I know*
KitKat
Quote from: Kitathia on December 05, 2006, 06:17:09 PM
Now I just wanna get the pet-proc Savage Platinum Claws from Fire and I can have 3 *pets* at the same time!! oh joy! *chuckle*
Save Timmie from the old well and you can have 3 pets whenever you want :)
Alot of beastlords on our server don't have BE, Tulisin...
it's hard for us to convince a group to work through any of those missions(especially #3 and #5), as most classes have an upgrade for their spell... or just don't feel they need it. So, if they didn't get it while DoD was hot and new, or have a group of friends willing to help... they are up the creek without a paddle as far as BE goes.
Quote from: hakaaba on December 06, 2006, 07:21:06 PM
Save Timmie from the old well and you can have 3 pets whenever you want :)
I was under the impression that the "pet" yout from doing the "Save Timmie Quest" didn't stack with our warder? Which is why I never bothered with the quest..
KitKat
Quote from: Kitathia on December 07, 2006, 07:07:09 PM
Quote from: hakaaba on December 06, 2006, 07:21:06 PM
Save Timmie from the old well and you can have 3 pets whenever you want :)
I was under the impression that the "pet" yout from doing the "Save Timmie Quest" didn't stack with our warder? Which is why I never bothered with the quest..
KitKat
It won't, a Familiar gets the same "pet slot" if you will, as our warder, so it's either/or.
its a swarm pet, not a familiar. Trust me, i have it heh.
O.o Another Pet-possibility! I'm going to be a virtual cat lady!
Ty Hakaaba - I will see if I can get some people to help with that quest!
KitKat
Always use it as soon as the button refreshes. Except if raid calls for no pets.
Its (the timmie one) cast time is a bit longish imo. I generally only use it if i'm mana limited (its free) or doing "leet" ranged dps (i'm waiting for spells to refresh anyway)
i use mine on named mobs on raids that our nukes get resisted on.
when solo'ing i only use it when i get an add for added dps.
I have the same problem as others, I cant get people to help me with the 68~69 mission arcs.
lol more on EMARR have that pet then you think Caathrok....maybe not the ones tulisin groups with but most of the bsts I see use it. its just not used highly on group situations from what I have seen when we are set up in a slower role
On the Rathe server I have the same problem. I am stuck on 68.3 on up... I'm one of the ones who's up the creek as our guilds tanks who can handle and know the missions are sick of them
If any of you guys are on Bristlebane and need help let me know. I can put a group together for it moderately fast if I'm given a bit of warning. Spell is really nice to have.
Weirdly enough, this pet can also shield you. I had it happen last night on Ture when the ramp tank went down and I was somehow next on the list. It sucked too, gotta keep that paladin alive next time.
[Sun Jan 21 20:27:59 2007] Shieara begins to use Shieara`s pet as a living shield!
Ture is AE ramp when he goes into his rage thingy isn't it? He have a single target Ramp when not raged?
Yeah, normally Ture is single-target rampage, but then when he does his little emote it becomes AE-super-ramp (and at that point I get the heck out of dodge rather then be crucified).
But back on topic, I love the little werewolf pet. So nice to have a spell that can't really be resisted like our nukes and dots. I do use it in groups and on raids, except for trash. I find that most trash dies so fast the pet doesn't last the duration, so I use nukes on them.