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Everquest 1 => Library => The Beastlords' Companion => Topic started by: Wulor on January 16, 2004, 08:21:36 PM

Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Wulor on January 16, 2004, 08:21:36 PM
I read that there was an update to dpoc and I'm very close to having to make the decision to purchase or not.

Those that have, would you do it again?

I'm reading that the regen is nice, but does the pet still kick or did it go back to bash?


Thanks.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Elyias Steelfang on January 16, 2004, 08:29:16 PM
Since they fixed it I would definately buy it again.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Zentrel on January 16, 2004, 08:31:13 PM
pet bashes and HELL YES i'd buy it again :)
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Noriko on January 16, 2004, 09:00:22 PM
Will buy it again without a second thought.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Mahes on January 16, 2004, 09:04:40 PM
DPoC is definitely worth the points if you're not Time flagged.  The regen alone would be worth the points.  It'll save you a good deal in pet heals.  Plus the dps increase is significant enough to warrant buying it.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Felidae on January 16, 2004, 09:16:54 PM
The regen alone as said...

/pet hold == pet CH heal in 30 seconds :)
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Aldur on January 16, 2004, 09:35:29 PM
Yep, more dps is always nice and the regen is really nice.  Definitely worth buying.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Howlena Damoon on January 16, 2004, 11:38:43 PM
Regen is so good on focused pets that, in a pinch, putting pet on hold can cause it to regen as many hp as the damage it's being dealt.  Good for heals that are gonna cut it close.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Llorath on January 17, 2004, 03:35:24 AM
Would buy it again in a second.  The main benifit is the regen, not increased DPS, but having the pet regen so well has all sorts of good uses.


Totally worth it
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Bengali on January 17, 2004, 03:46:14 AM
I'd definitely get it again.  Definitely.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Nalitra on January 17, 2004, 05:58:07 AM
Have not regretted buying it for one second, and would do it again without a hesitation.

Nalitra
65 Feral Lady
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Pojodan on January 17, 2004, 06:08:42 AM
Got it, love it, would definately get again.. Damage Shields are just too common in LDoN missions and I don't always look at Kitty's health bar, with DPoC I don't even really need to since he's back to full after any fight that doesn't involve me having a lag spike right as the MoB enrages.
Title: huh?
Post by: Grenedel on January 17, 2004, 05:39:00 PM
DPoC? from your guys discription it sounds like an AA ability, but I was just curious.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Rippykin on January 17, 2004, 05:49:08 PM
Diamond Prism of Companionship (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=42134)
NO DROP AUGMENTATION
Augmentation type: All slot types
Slot: RANGE PRIMARY SECONDARY
Recommended level of 65.
Focus: Summoner's Boon
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL

Purchased at Takish-Hiz Adventure Camp - 760 pts.

I just bought this yesterday, and I too have no regrets. You can pretty much ignore any damage taken by your pet aside from a fight that'll kill it.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Grenedel on January 17, 2004, 09:09:31 PM
What exactly does it do?  and what did it previously do before the change?
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Tastian on January 17, 2004, 09:26:00 PM
The focus currently...

Raises pets damage on hits.  Max dmg goes from 77 to 79(for 64 pet), min hit stays the same.  However, most of the values the pet can hit for increase as well, not just max hit.

Pets base regen (before hps buffs/etc) goes up to 6% a tick.  This is major when combined with pet hold as in a lot of cases the pet can out regen incoming damage.

The pets base hps go up.  From ~4200 to ~4600 as best I've seen.

The pets defense seems to have improved.  My parses show the pet taking slightly less dps, but my pet doesn't tank enough to actually get a sizeable enough parse to really say for certain.


The focus went through a lot of changes...

At one time the pet kicked, this was removed and now the focused pet sitll only bashes...

At one time the focused pets looked different.  Iks pets red, barb black, troll cool, etc.  This has since went away and is one of the biggest grips with the focus currently.

There were a few others things and I'm sure I'm missing stuff, but as it stands right now the focus is a pretty solid buy at 760 points in tak, especially if one doesn't have access to other pet focus items.  There is a small boost in dps from what I've tested.  The regen is huge for most people, especially in situations where pet randomly eats enrage or dmg shield or minor AE's and you simply don't bother healing pet now.  In a normal LDoN mission I have zero call for sorsha as regen + pet mend is more than sufficent over 99% of the time.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Dummkopf on January 18, 2004, 01:32:11 AM
I would buy it again, the regen is the best thing about by far, i dont care really about the 2 more max hit, well, today my wolf enjoyed wielding 2 steel hilted flint dagger, that was a much bigger improvemend on dps than the focus  :twisted:
Title: pet focus items
Post by: Grenedel on January 18, 2004, 09:02:16 PM
I guess I never really looked into pet focus items.  Does anyone have a decent list of ones that a beastlord can use ahd what they do?  Would be interested in seeing if this would help out for some equipment picks.  Also, are there any other augments that is a "Must Have" for a beastlord that I am just not noticing?
Title: Watch where you put this augment
Post by: Kinmax on January 19, 2004, 04:25:26 PM
I put this focus item on my primary weapon.  Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.  I love it but as some said they would buy it again.  I may have to do that to move it to a range slot item.

Act in haste.  Regret in leisure.  I poped in into my WLK and then said "Doh!"
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Kivahri Raynsmajic on January 19, 2004, 05:28:27 PM
i noticed it says the augment has a recommended lvl of 65....
does this mean that the augment will only affect pets if you are 65?

also, how long you think it'll take a 54 bst to get the augment?
i only have like 50-some odd points left after buying some stuff
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Soriab on January 19, 2004, 09:15:15 PM
Recomended Level 65

Means that the Focus Effect will not work unless you are lvl 65.
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Kivahri Raynsmajic on January 20, 2004, 12:07:46 AM
wha?  gah, no
that's so stupid.....  why is it like that?
bah
/rude soe
/sigh
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Morganti on January 20, 2004, 02:55:33 AM
actually the focus works on all pet spells level 59 and higher, meaning it starts working at 60 for us...

~D~
Title: Would you buy DPoC again?
Post by: Felidae on January 20, 2004, 07:56:49 PM
As to augmenting the "wrong thing" with it... you only need to equip the thing when you summon the pet so you can always swap it out after.

I really think SOE should allow you the *reclaim* augments that you paid points for.  Remove/destroy is fine, though heavy handed, for droppable ones, but ones you bought you should be able to get back IMHO.