Pic from the boxed version of OoW
(http://home.houston.rr.com/supertech/screenshot/bstepic2.jpg)
Too cool. Love the Native American vibe to it. Assuming it's based on the old war clubs used by those in the U.S. and the images kind of have a native South American vibe to it.
Wonder where the particle will be.
Yes very nice detail to it... also i like the native heritage to the design... seems to fit with the nature atuned beastlord. Question.. does it come in pairs or as a single.. off hand or main hand wep?.. yet to be seen i suppose.
Looks like they are remodling the ED/Rotting Fist basically. I like it.
Good thing they raised out 1hb cap! That looks like a bashing thingie! :P
Looks awesome, thank you for posting the image!
Hmm, just noticed...and I may be wrong, but if you really look at the detail it appears that the animals are our five warders, with the exception of the beaked animal at the bottom.
I see a cat as the main body, a bear on the back side, wolf opposite under the ball, scaled wolf below the cat, and the gator above the hand grip.
Nice.
Is that concept art, or an actual in game model?
Well, that is clearly concept art, and not a rendered image. Looks interesting though...
I like the origional epic claws look better myself. Hopefully that ball hangin on the end goes away or moved so one of the heads is biting it to hold it in place. then it will look a bit more streamlined and weapon like.
Quote from: MahesWonder where the particle will be.
Guessing from the concept art, and using the subtle effect on the zerker epic (current one) as a guide, I'd guess that the various animals' eyes will glow.
I was looking forward to another pair of claws as well, but a 1HB will probably get more use. Gives you plenty of options for the off hand.
I'm not really into the native american styling. It doesn't seem very Vah Shir to me. (And any bsts worth their salt are...ah...nevermind :P)
Quote from: ShadowpawI'm not really into the native american styling. It doesn't seem very Vah Shir to me. (And any bsts that wanna be unoriginal are...ah...nevermind :P)
Fixed :lol:
Looks good to me, quite "beastlordish" (IMO the epics 1.0 look a bit futuristic).
And I did not notice the five warders first, thanks for pointing that out, nice detail.
I think it looks pretty.
Will I have to get the epic 1 to be able to get epic 2?
No, it will just shorten the quest slightly.
Game on,
Just remember that Epic 1.5 will not look as fancy as Epic 2.0. The look is supposed to be part of the attraction of going for Epic 2.0. I will only be going for 1.5 though.
Ah, now that someone pointed out that each of the warders images is integrated into the design, I like it a lot more. It's a good species independent design. The claws are maybe a little too Vah Shir.
Of course, I'm only trying to be courteous to our Barbarian brothers and sisters. Not the Iksar :P
I think the claws Fit the Iksar beast very well.. hell we have Nails which in themselves are claws.. Now i gets to run around with some Club like a brute.. Im iksar im above Clubing.. We once had the greatest cities of all and once more we will... So all you filty wet dog softskins Will /bow and pay homage to the Greatness that is Better known as Skarx. The iksar beastlord
I actually prefer the look of claws. I also think they are more fitting than a club. I have titles such as Feral, Savage Lord, Primalist. I'm identified by spells with names like frenzy, fury, savagery, ferocity in them. My life time companion is a vicious animal. I'm attuned to him and him to me. I run with a pack of wolves. I'm barbaric, savage and totally wild. The last thing you'll ever do is piss a Beastlord off.
Whenever I think of a weapon with a claw graphic I immediately think of the Beastlord class. Although we share a similar graphic (non epic) with Monk's and the odd Ranger weapon, claws sets us apart from the other classes - it's an individual look and it defines us. Claws = Beastlord. Beastlord = Claws.
That weapon looks great. But it doesn't have razor sharp claws I can rip my enemy apart with in an animalistic rage. Instead, I bonk him on the head. Nah. I want a weapon that looks like it was designed to tear someones chest open. Now, if I were a Shaman or Monk on the other hand..
I dunno. Beating someone with a dull glowly object is pretty savage if you ask me :)
Quote from: ShadowpawI dunno. Beating someone with a dull glowly object is pretty savage if you ask me :)
Hehe, you have a point! But animals rip and tear at flesh - they don't bruise!
I really dont care as long is its shiny and sparkley
wouold have prefered h2h but it looks great admitted
Dont like it im afraid, pretty ugly looking. Original Epics are far superior.
Well, the pretty blue lights make the current epic what it is. Take away that, and it's pretty bad looking, lol.
So we'll just have to see what visual effects this one has... going just by the artist rendition probably doesn't do it justice. :)
It better have some pretty sweet stats and ratio on it 'cause it looks like a rattle to me ... goes with the idiotic Feralkid title they gave us. One of the reasons I rolled a bst was the claws, coolest looking epic there is (imho).
Why the didn't stop at 'Feral' for the new title? (but that's different topic)
Monks, SK & Necros didn't get a title 'Floppy', we get Feralkid /rant off
FeralKIN, aka, close to animals....
LOL, Feralkid.... :D
Quote from: KlahwIt better have some pretty sweet stats and ratio on it 'cause it looks like a rattle to me ... goes with the idiotic Feralkid title they gave us. One of the reasons I rolled a bst was the claws, coolest looking epic there is (imho).
Why the didn't stop at 'Feral' for the new title? (but that's different topic)
Monks, SK & Necros didn't get a title 'Floppy', we get Feralkid /rant off
Feralkid sucks, but Predator = $$
I see two bearheads on that rendering of the epic 2.0. Obviously, they are showing us ogres extra love.
For a 8% Double Attack increase, 500dd proc etc im willing to become a master at every trade. I seriously hope this quest is super hard, seeing how we can pretty much solo our 1.0 now. Last thing we need is Newbies running around with a epic weapon > Time, God equipment etc. Only time will tell.
Predator Dreambringer Daywarder
THE Feral Lord of Rallos Zek
Proud member of Wudan
The magicians have a screenshot posted (mage compendium) of a dev apparently wielding their epic 2.0. Someone with contacts in SoE should get us a screenshot of ours.
Quote from: ShathoSomeone with contacts in SoE should get us a screenshot of ours.
/em mercilessly teases :?:
Nah, he does enough without being hassled for that. We'll see it soon enough.
Yeah, I would rather see the celebration and unveiling right here when one of our own real beastlords earns it. :)
Quote from: JillieMTYeah, I would rather see the celebration and unveiling right here when one of our own real beastlords earns it. :)
Hey! Possibilty of a new title award there!
Ooh, that is a neat idea! We need to pass that up to management :)
Looks Nice and they have made things that look to be 1hb into H2H.
Quote from: DreambringerFor a 8% Double Attack increase
Hmmm....We don't actually get DA as a base skill, so I'm concerned that 8% of nothing is still nothing.
It looks like a 1HB or 2HB weapon to me, and I agree that a Beastlords archtype weapon should be claws. There is NO Preditory animal that uses a clubbing or blunt trauma type attack. The great majority of predators in the natural world use claws or teeth, i.e., H2H or Piercing.
I was never impressed with the original Epic either. It is too big, clunky, and simply unweildy looking. Like a coffee can with nails driven thru it. And the glowing is just stupid. How do you expect to stalk prey if you are glowing like a neon sign?
I am happy we got increased Skill limits on Piercing, but why Blunt weapons? We are BEAST masters, not BONK masters.
*sigh*
QuoteIt looks like a 1HB or 2HB weapon to me, and I agree that a Beastlords archtype weapon should be claws.
While claws would be great, their record at making claws that look decent is fairly underwhelming. As a Troll, I'll just pretend the 1hb look (assuming it comes out that way in the game) goes along with my penchant for whacking things over the head.
Well...sawfish stun the fish out of the water by clubbing them with the bill, while not predators per se (but certainly violent) apes often beat things to death, sharks stun prey also, dolphins ram sharks to kill them, birds often drop prey to kill it or use the beak as a club, zebra (and about any equestrian) can kill lions with a well placed kick...so it's wrong to say that no animals use blunt trauma to kill. I can go on for a while, otters crack open mollusks with rocks for instance. And let's not forget those crazy hairless ape things that, lacking natural weaponry, made use of tools...
I like the look of it a lot, resembles a lot of the native art from tribes here in western Canada, Haida to be exact.
But given the theme of the art, would make more sense as the shammy epic. After all native shaman were healer and made potions, salves, etc to impart all kinds of things to people.
And the Shammy epic has a big lion a little more fitting for our class.
Quote from: NusaQuote from: DreambringerFor a 8% Double Attack increase
Hmmm....We don't actually get DA as a base skill, so I'm concerned that 8% of nothing is still nothing.
8 pct is 1 pct less than what you can get from a ferocity 3 item or the ferocity 3 tribute effect, kinda sad
I think its for pet not us guys. Pet can double attack :p
Last time I looked at the effect on Lucy it was a very short duration clicky pet only buff.
Quote from: jitathabDont like it im afraid, pretty ugly looking. Original Epics are far superior.
Uh .. yeah ... considering you've only seen the 'concept art' for the new ones. Beast head on a stick breathing fire/something? There is alot of potential there. Compare after you see it in game plz thx.
Oh right nice, people say they like it and you didnt say - wait to see it in game did you, no you pick on a single opinion. A piece of (bunnies) in a can gets called art at the Tate Modern but you dont have to say it looks good if you dont think it is. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/06/30/nart30.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/06/30/ixnewstop.html
Dont go making sarcastic comments of peoples opinions just because you disagree with it[/url]
somehow even the epic 2 clicky seems rather ugh, I mean really 1 min every 10 mins your pet will deliver 20 dps more... and avoid a lil more dmg (cause it can tank oh so well the things you fight with a guild capable of completeing epic 2.0 )
Quote from: Choppinsomehow even the epic 2 clicky seems rather ugh, I mean really 1 min every 10 mins your pet will deliver 20 dps more... and avoid a lil more dmg (cause it can tank oh so well the things you fight with a guild capable of completeing epic 2.0 )
I don't think it will be anywhere near 20 dps, personally. That's just my skepticism, but we know nothing about the proc rate that the pet will have when imbued by this.
I would much rather some form of stacking group attack buff that perhaps imbued the group with whatever proc our warders were currently using, I think that could be fun, as well as more useful.
SKs get a group lifetap effect, necros get a similar type effect that grants group hps/mana or similar, so I don't think an effect like that would be too out of line. :)
QuoteSKs get a group lifetap effect, necros get a similar type effect that grants group hps/mana or similar, so I don't think an effect like that would be too out of line.
Yeah, a 100hp/20mana group regen proc would RULE. All of a sudden big raids would have healer groups be 5 Clerics, 1 BST :D
The first epic is far more shiny heh still is... :D [/b]
Quote from: BengaliQuote from: Choppinsomehow even the epic 2 clicky seems rather ugh, I mean really 1 min every 10 mins your pet will deliver 20 dps more... and avoid a lil more dmg (cause it can tank oh so well the things you fight with a guild capable of completeing epic 2.0 )
I don't think it will be anywhere near 20 dps, personally. That's just my skepticism, but we know nothing about the proc rate that the pet will have when imbued by this.
If you have a pet proc already up on your pet the epic click proc wont even work. I was like number 4 beast to get epic on Rodcet, so Ive been playing with it alot. If you dont have the pet proc up(spell version) and then click epic, it procs often, not a hell of a lot tho. Im not sure if the attack or hp goes up either if you have the pet spell proc up, I noticed no differnce once i click epic damage wise.
As you can imagine its quite stupid imo. In order for the epic click to do any good your pet needs to run around with no spell proc up because you cant click off pet spells like you can on yourself. I was hoping the latest patch would fix it, but no it hasnt. I also was hoping that the newest pet proc spell would allow it to be stackable. But after getting all my 66-68 spells, no dice. The epic click is a piece of shit, hope they fix it.
That's not entirely correct. The epic click will work if you have another pet proc on it, but ONLY if you manage to get the epic click to be in a buff slot that's before the other proc buff. Whichever proc buff is in the highest slot (in this case "highest" means closest to the first buff slot) is the one that will work.
Currently some people work around this problem by putting junk buffs on before their normal pet proc and then dispelling the junk buffs so that the pet has empty buff slots ahead of rellic or irionu or whatever. Then when you click the epic, the buff will go into one of the empty slots, and take precedence over the normal proc.
That's what I normally do, although even that doesn't work well in raid situations - MGB heals and Bard songs tend to take up the slots I've carefully kept open for the epic click effect. I'm sure they'll fix it eventually.