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Everquest 1 => Epic Discussions => Beastlord Epic 1.5 => Topic started by: janabell on September 27, 2004, 10:47:35 AM

Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: janabell on September 27, 2004, 10:47:35 AM
as of right now clicking your epic targets your pet witchi find rilly anoying since i have to retarget the mob, and someitems i forget that it switches targets and lose out on DPS,

it would be nice if epic click did not target your pet when casting the buff, kinda like self clickies dont target you.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Jkal_Shihar on September 27, 2004, 12:40:05 PM
Well, most of the pet only buffs will automatically target your pet anyways.
I consider it more of a character buff then a self clickie in that you are not really buffing yourself.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: janabell on September 27, 2004, 12:50:41 PM
unlike any of our other pet buffs this particlular buff is manly used dureing battle, would be nice to not have it target your pet atleast for epic buff.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Eatbugs on September 27, 2004, 01:28:25 PM
Doubt that will be changed, as all pet buffs work that way.  It's only a minor inconvenience.  The fact that the proc portion of the buff won't take effect unless it comes before the regular proc buff on the pet's buff list is a much more irrtating concern for me.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Pheral on September 27, 2004, 02:05:51 PM
Actually, the Hobble AA casts on your pet without switching your target.  I'm kind of surprised they didn't do this for all pet buffs.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Eatbugs on September 27, 2004, 02:06:54 PM
Hm, I'd forgotten about Hobble.  Come to think of it, Mend Companion doesn't change targets either.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Bengali on September 27, 2004, 02:56:05 PM
In the meantime if you bind a key to "toggle (or is it cycle?) between last two targets" in your keyboard options menu, you can quickly retarget whatever it was that you had targeted before clicking epic.  You can even do it while the spell is casting.

For some reason that doesn't work with some other autotarget pet spells, but it does with this.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: TheOriginalGronker on September 27, 2004, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Bengali
For some reason that doesn't work with some other autotarget pet spells, but it does with this.

Thats funny .. a new behaviour for a spell/clickie.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Gotog Ironskull on September 27, 2004, 04:56:35 PM
Just woundering if this effict will also goto our Swarm Pets from the SPF.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Kherryn on September 27, 2004, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: BengaliIn the meantime if you bind a key to "toggle (or is it cycle?) between last two targets" in your keyboard options menu, you can quickly retarget whatever it was that you had targeted before clicking epic.  You can even do it while the spell is casting.

For some reason that doesn't work with some other autotarget pet spells, but it does with this.

Normal pet buffs (proc/haste) don't target your pet as a new target (as if you clicked on your pet)...they actually switch your current target to the pet (as if you were always targetting the pet in the first place) instead.  This means you won't be able to re-target the mob using the toggle key.  

What you can do instead, like I did, is target something else real quick (I usually hit TAB to target myself real quick) and then hit the auto-pet target spell, then hit the toggle key and you'll be back on your original target because the spell redirected the target on you to the pet, not the target on the mob.

Does that make sense?
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: tkyn on September 27, 2004, 09:47:39 PM
I have a hotkey that does the following:

/target pet
/assist pet
/attack on

I use it all the time, so if I ever get the damned ME drop and subsequently my epic I don't think it will be that much of a problem.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: getan garfoobed on September 29, 2004, 01:57:38 AM
Well if the clicky targets your pet, then just assist your pet, and you will be back on the target.  Should work in most situations, with the exception of your pet off tanking.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Felidae on September 29, 2004, 06:24:05 PM
I think its worth /feedbacking .... put a fair amount of effort into getting the item is shouldnt have such an annoying foible.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Kebrarn on September 29, 2004, 06:52:37 PM
I actually find it to be rather annoying myself.  I've clicked the effect quite a few times and forgotten that it changes my target.  I've got quite a few round before actually realizing this.  I do think we should all feedback this, as it makes things really annoying.
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Aeshmal on September 30, 2004, 04:29:38 PM
I actually very much like it. It took me a while to get used to pet-only spells auto-targeting the pet, but it's very handy now. I can just click the thing and then go back to killing things without having to target the pet intentionally in the interim. I do not wish to see this changed,
Title: Epic clicky targeting your pet
Post by: Urim on September 30, 2004, 05:35:52 PM
QuoteI can just click the thing and then go back to killing things without having to target the pet intentionally in the interim. I do not wish to see this changed,
Nobody is asking that it be changed to making us manually target the pet, cause god knows that would be even worse. What we are asking for is that the spell hits the pet automatically without changing targets at all much like Mend Companion and Hobble of Spirits (not sure on HoS cause i will never purchase it).