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Started by Mordeb42, July 08, 2009, 10:31:33 AM

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Catnip_Inny

Can we take out the stuff about power source/merc and any other of the generally not needed stuff?  Id rather see a condsensed list of the real hard hittings tuff we want then the devs have a chance to screw us cause we tossed in a bunch of stuff we dont really need or want... with powersources being player made now, and katta missions being so eays tehres no need for us to be able to summon them with an AA anways.

medoc

here are the aa i see useful
1. pet defence aa pet takes 50% of your damage.
2.Passive AA for pets to stop attacking during enrage
3.More levels of our aa dot, stun, and attack debuff.
4.more double tripple attack though double is more important i think.
5.Would love a weak version of panther either as AA or spell.
6.AAs to shorten the cast time on yowl at the moon line.
7.Perhaps a flurry disc, or something, if we aren't geting another dps disc  maybe even some flurry AAs would be nice.
8.More crit aa's for both spells and melee i am sure we will get a few levels of these though

kharthai

Quote from: medoc on July 15, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
here are the aa i see useful
1. pet defence aa pet takes 50% of your damage.
2.Passive AA for pets to stop attacking during enrage
3.More levels of our aa dot, stun, and attack debuff.
4.more double tripple attack though double is more important i think.
5.Would love a weak version of panther either as AA or spell.
6.AAs to shorten the cast time on yowl at the moon line.
7.Perhaps a flurry disc, or something, if we aren't geting another dps disc  maybe even some flurry AAs would be nice.
8.More crit aa's for both spells and melee i am sure we will get a few levels of these though


I'd like to keep the Focus of Animus debuff thing and self cure, but that's a good list.

Codak

Quote from: wildwaters on July 15, 2009, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: Codak on July 14, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
i would say more of a utility then dps tho

I view us as sustained dps as opposed to burst dps.

That sounds like a correct statement, i love my dps but i also love that i can save people with my crappy heals too
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Maylian

Quote from: medoc on July 15, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
here are the aa i see useful
1. pet defence aa pet takes 50% of your damage.
2.Passive AA for pets to stop attacking during enrage
3.More levels of our aa dot, stun, and attack debuff.
4.more double tripple attack though double is more important i think.
5.Would love a weak version of panther either as AA or spell.
6.AAs to shorten the cast time on yowl at the moon line.
7.Perhaps a flurry disc, or something, if we aren't geting another dps disc  maybe even some flurry AAs would be nice.
8.More crit aa's for both spells and melee i am sure we will get a few levels of these though


1. Hopefully they could make this the mitigated damage, could whack a pet DA on and this would be excellent. Wouldn't want it on the same timer as our current disc though.
2. Doesn't really bother me, haven't lost a pet to enrage for years.
3. Sounds good.
4. More double attack yes, triple if possible.
5. Definitely, this would be my number 1 want. Would love it to be group buff but at least self and pet. Maybe just turn growl into a proc buff as well if not wanting to develop it as an AA line, since the buff itself is almost redundant other than on the longest of fights.
5. Saying it again just for emphasis.
6. See 5. Don't care about the cast time for Howl, the way I see it is that it reduces agro generation quite a bit. If they are to reduce the cast time just make a new version of the spell with lower cast time.
7. Sounds nice, would certainly help towards our sustained dps. Unless it was better than our empathic it wouldn't be good for burns since mobs don't last long enough.
8. Again I expect these would be the typical cut and paste increase.

9. I would like an AA debuff.
10. I would like an AA slow.
11. Wurine to be split into a buff and an illusion.
12. Spell casting subtlety to be toggable on/off

Kanan

Quote from: Maylian on July 16, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
12. Spell casting subtlety to be toggable on/off

This would be a huge thing for them to do, I'm sure.  But PUUHHLLEEEASE! this would be awesome!

It would solve any fence sitting issues for me, right then and there.  Turn off to be able to tank (some groups, it's running a fine line).  Turn on for raids (be so nice to not be next target when the tank dies or if he's died and been battle-rezzed and therefore has little endurance for hate generation)
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Camikazi

Quote from: medoc on July 15, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
here are the aa i see useful
7.Perhaps a flurry disc, or something, if we aren't geting another dps disc  maybe even some flurry AAs would be nice.


Double or Triple before flurry, getting flurry with ~70% DA rate and low Triple rate means flurry will do very low amount of DPS. Increase DA, then work on getting triple and flurry up.




Razimir

Quote from: Maylian on July 16, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
12. Spell casting subtlety to be toggable on/off

Or maybe silent casting type ability, which would last couple of minutes and reuse maybe 15 min.

-Raz

rhaug

in favour of a huge number of new dps aa:)

give us more burn dps or overal higher dps aa and abilitys.
more double attack, new dps aa etc
higher pet dps, like 90 procent of mage pet dps.
or new pet aa that summons extra dps pet every 5min.
a shortened timer on our main dps disc
instant yowl of the moon cast etc

anything what makes us parse higher then we do atm when giving all the best we can.

seems we turn more into a dps class then a utility class anyway
with our crappy heal and other stuff.

on raids we seem to be dps class with a slow now and then and maybe now and then a heal
but not often.

so increased dps aa is what i ask

Maylian

Quote from: rhaug on July 17, 2009, 09:57:18 AM
in favour of a huge number of new dps aa:)

give us more burn dps or overal higher dps aa and abilitys.
more double attack, new dps aa etc
higher pet dps, like 90 procent of mage pet dps.
or new pet aa that summons extra dps pet every 5min.
a shortened timer on our main dps disc
instant yowl of the moon cast etc

anything what makes us parse higher then we do atm when giving all the best we can.

seems we turn more into a dps class then a utility class anyway
with our crappy heal and other stuff.

on raids we seem to be dps class with a slow now and then and maybe now and then a heal
but not often.

so increased dps aa is what i ask


With a side order of the moon and some reality....unless you're asking for everything in the hope that they just give us something.

Camikazi

Quote from: Maylian on July 17, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: rhaug on July 17, 2009, 09:57:18 AM
in favour of a huge number of new dps aa:)

give us more burn dps or overal higher dps aa and abilitys.
more double attack, new dps aa etc
higher pet dps, like 90 procent of mage pet dps.
or new pet aa that summons extra dps pet every 5min.
a shortened timer on our main dps disc
instant yowl of the moon cast etc

anything what makes us parse higher then we do atm when giving all the best we can.

seems we turn more into a dps class then a utility class anyway
with our crappy heal and other stuff.

on raids we seem to be dps class with a slow now and then and maybe now and then a heal
but not often.

so increased dps aa is what i ask


With a side order of the moon and some reality....unless you're asking for everything in the hope that they just give us something.

That's not always a bad idea :) send in things they will never go for so other things seem alot more reasonable :)




wildwaters

Quote from: Camikazi on July 17, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: Maylian on July 17, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: rhaug on July 17, 2009, 09:57:18 AM
in favour of a huge number of new dps aa:)

give us more burn dps or overal higher dps aa and abilitys.
more double attack, new dps aa etc
higher pet dps, like 90 procent of mage pet dps.
or new pet aa that summons extra dps pet every 5min.
a shortened timer on our main dps disc
instant yowl of the moon cast etc

anything what makes us parse higher then we do atm when giving all the best we can.

seems we turn more into a dps class then a utility class anyway
with our crappy heal and other stuff.

on raids we seem to be dps class with a slow now and then and maybe now and then a heal
but not often.

so increased dps aa is what i ask


With a side order of the moon and some reality....unless you're asking for everything in the hope that they just give us something.

That's not always a bad idea :) send in things they will never go for so other things seem alot more reasonable :)

Like OMG don't let them on to our secret methods cam!!!

Meowzer

I think a good utility AA would be single cast shrink and grow.  I usually get one or two complaints about being a victim of group shrink, and they don't want to block group shrink since they need it for raids.

Catnip_Inny

Can we add Hastened Roar of Thunder AA's to the list?  I dont care about extending RoT further, its useful the way it is..  But if they can hasten it enough there is no need for me to buy Spell Casting Subelty.


rhaug

ah its like making a deal
the seller starts a bid higher so he can go down and still get a good deal
and the buyer starts a bit lower and can go up a bit.

dont ask for small things to be upgraded when you really want big things to be added to the beastlord class.

anyway i got the feeling as a beastlord that we got to work very hard to get a high parse.

would not mind some passive dps added(a really increased double attack rate ) or new dps aa that brings us a bit closer to the top. in the form of a heavy dps pet  aa which can be up together with yowl but has a bigger refresh timer, the new pet hits around 750 to 1k for 10 seconds, and can crit and is instant cast
or a new beastlord animal strike that hits 5k or so and can crit. with 1 min refresh.

more dps in anyforn is welcome as aa or improvement.

dps is what i want most, since utilities are maybe nice for grouping but in raids they seem to be not needed if they are not really usefull.

most stuff is handy as utility but if we get it rather then dps aa i will pass for sure