Burn dps in raids

[Gamgan]

I always start boss fights with yowl, giving the tank 3 or so extra seconds to get decent aggro before unloading the aggro magnet nukes.  Even with this precaution, I still end up with aggro often enough, so I decided to include the 2 jolt abilities in the first nuke cycle as well, poison, bite, ice1, roar, ice2 seems to work fairly well most of the time.

If it is a short enough fight use all the nukes / dots (assuming they don't bounce obv) and yowl as they pop / wear off, since mana won't be a major issue.  If it's a burn fight, forceful rejuvenation can significantly improve your dps.  On longer fights, where you don't think your mana pool will hold out, prioritize which spell lines to drop depending on resists / rape rampage that tears up the warder and swarm pets, etc.  There are a few fights I don't bother with the pet, since even w/ fortify companion on him, he still gets raped, so I suspend him beforehand to avoid having to rebuff him n such afterwards.

As for the discs themselves, I have tried timing forray and FS to the discs, but when grouped with shm and/or bard, it's really hard to synch them up with their epic clicks, and I would rather use them as they pop then wait 5-25 seconds to see if epic will be clicked or not.  Not to mention on longer fights FS and forray tend to get out of synch due to the type 3 aug.  I always use EF first, due to the fragile nature of our warders, they may as well take advantage of the disc while they're alive.  Also, should I happen to die, I still have a disc up that requires no endurance.  Since most of the time I'm grouped w/ a shm, I try to save my 100% dmg mod discs (along with first spire and glyph) for epic clicks, and use GBA / ranger group disc to fill in the gap between epics (if the fight isn't too long).  If the fight is long enough for 7th vet, and forceful rejuvenation is up with no burn fights coming up soon, I usually burn it to take advantage of the spell crit mod.

[Codak]

It is very close too or within those numbers in the 95 parses i did to try to figure it out and im well aware that my numbers are off most likely but using dmg mod discs and overhaste ..etc with fero will increase your dps, and my point simply was that it increases your dps and anyone else that you give the buff too!!!

[Wolfcaller]

How did you go about parsing it?  I ask because controlled parses in the past have shown neglible increases from Fero, and your parse results are leading you to a much different conclusion.

Also, has anyone else parsed it since SoD?

[Codak]

I havent done any controlled parses is why im sure it is off by some! All my parses that i did to try and figure it out were done on valdeholm spiders while soloing!

[Awakening]

Inphared's info was basically same I use, I grouped with a sham/bard/zerker tonight on bb raid, and did my max dps so far

Rottrued the Twisted in 280s, 15862k @56648dps --- Awakening + pets 1102k @4006dps

I outdpsed everyone in raid on that kill heh, Bst Powa!! I am T5 group geared, using a brumal +3 dmg aug, and Dire cestii +4dmg aug, Cant wait to have 2 solid mmm/cryst weps

[Zebrn Beasword]

Ok this is probably sad me asking this after all these years playing... but what stacks with what?

Intensity = Nothing
BA = Nothing
BF = Nothing
Growl = Everything? (type3?)
GroupBA = Everything? (type?)
Glyph = Everything? (Type?)

[Inphared]

Ok this is probably sad me asking this after all these years playing... but what stacks with what?

Intensity = Nothing
BA = Nothing
BF = Nothing
Growl = Everything? (type3?)
GroupBA = Everything? (type?)
Glyph = Everything? (Type?)

Intensity = Anything, but usually you're using it with a damage mod disc and the damage mod will be cut out.
BA = Glyph (Intensity if you feel like using it, but you won't receive the +dmg mod portions, good for crit increases_
EF = Glyph (Intensity, same story with BA)
Growl = Useless
GBA = Nothing that has a damage mod (EF, BA, etc)
Glyph = Everything

[Codak]

Which glyph would work best for us?

[Inphared]

Destruction. Always destruction.

[Khauruk]

Growl = Useless

Useless under any disc we have, but def. not useless (Not all fights are short enough to be under disc whole time).

Rottrued the Twisted in 280s, 15862k @56648dps --- Awakening + pets 1102k @4006dps

Nice dps for the weapons you have.

[Azire]

I find the info in this thread very helpful, thanks for all input.

Using the info here, I loaded 3 DoTs, 3 Nukes, Swarm, Growl, Promised, and Heal when we did Rottrued the other night. I had a bard, shaman, and zerk in group. I asked for mana flare before the fight but was denied by the only enc there. I used Rottrued's Enforcer and the 1hb from Meldrath. I parsed 3545dps, my personal best but I feel I am way off. I have 1200 AAs but lacking Fury of Magic2-9, Hastened Feral Atk, and all of Burst of Power. I also have done none of the enhanced aggression AAs. I am about 1/2 way on my pet offensive AAs. With this info, I have a couple questions for the elder beasts:

1. What am I doing wrong or lacking?
2. What is a realistic goal for my DPS in that fight?
3. That parse was not mine but a guildies, do other people's parses leave out anything from us or our pets?

Thank you in advance for any and all replies.

[Inphared]

1. What am I doing wrong or lacking?

From your own post, you're missing AA's. Get those knocked out to maximize your potential.

2. What is a realistic goal for my DPS in that fight?

That's undetermined. I haven't done Rottrued in a while, but I usually was in the top 5 or so.

3. That parse was not mine but a guildies, do other people's parses leave out anything from us or our pets?

Yes. Other players cannot see the non-melee damage from pets, so you're missing damage there.

A link to this parse would help tell you if there's anything else you can do to improve.

[Kanan]

On most fights of any duration, the pet proc loss can run from 20-50k dmg (I think 30k is the typical difference that others show from my own parse)

[Catnip_Inny]

Glyph of Destruction doesnt stack with EF or BA? so its only useful on long fights?

[Inphared]

Glyph = Everything