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Raid Multi Box, which classes work well

Started by Shambler, July 29, 2004, 08:02:09 AM

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Shambler

I only have 2 accounts atm but have been dreaming of expanding my army some..

So what class would be the best to bring along with my beast to a raid. Asumeing the raid leader will let me bring my *pets* with me.

I would of course only except table scraps (stuff that no main characters want) on my bots, as they are just there for helping, not for loots.

My goal is to help the raid without becoming a liability to it.

So far I am thinking 1-3 Wizards would be the safest.
Pro
*no pet to worry about (or else mage would be cool)
*all they have to do is nuke and cuncusion and /autofollow.
*wizards are almost always stackable
*wizards usualy only get themselves killed (not responsible for much)
*I have 2 extra DPS characters to help me and my normal healer farm aa
Con
*multi-box wizies could easily be eaten by trash mobs on the way to raid mob
*wizards drink lots of beer (acording to a guild wizie)

My other thoughts
a few clerics? a portable heal chain :p
Pro
*Most raids are cancled because we don't have enough clerics for the heal chain
*Raids fail because we try them with too few clerics
*They basicaly have one job, heal
*I have clerics to rez all my characters and cast Virt.
Con
*Only stackable to a point
*May have to ignore beastlord while participating in chain
*Would not be able to use beasts pet while runing clerics (too high a risk of miss positioning pet)
*Stress from responsibility :)
*May step on toes of the clerics we do have
*3 clerics in the heal chain going LD at the same time would be bad

Clerics sound cool to have... but I think wizard is a better Idea.. hehe. I think there is too big of a chance to screw things up with clerics..

I screw up with a wizard.. I got a dead wizard /shrug
I screw up with clerics.. and some irational person says ban bots from raids... you know like the monks who want to ban pets from raids :p (blamed my pet, that was on pet hold, for something a wake the dead pet did... /snarl)
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Suthia

I'd go with a wizard for the DPS factor. My guild has a lot of 2boxed clerics but we'd much prefer to have single boxed clerics because they can focus more on healing (aka assist heals). Many of my guildmates have turned to boxing a wizard. I myself have a baby wizard but it's on the same account as my beastlord.

With a wizard, you could probably make a hotkey.

/pause xx,/cast nuke
/pause xx,/cast nuke
/pause xx,/cast nuke
/pause xx,/cast concussion

So if you do end up with boxing 3 wizards, you'd only need to hit one button every once in awhile.

My ideal boxing group would be Enc, BL, Cler (these 3 I have already), Mage (pet, nukes, and modrods, oh my), Wiz, Necro. Three pet classses yummy and don't have too much besides send in pet and nuke/dot.

Shambler

Yeah, hotkeying a wizard should be prety straight forward too. I could time them all to go off at the same time, asumeing it takes me so long to alt-tab and hit my KVM switch buttons.

My account layout at the moment is

65 Shaman*65 Beastlord
56 Druid***

I was pondering what I would do If i had 2 more accounts and leveld a mini-group from 1 to 65. I doubt it takes nearly as long as it took my shaman to go from 1-65 though..  Then I got to thinking, I may as well have some characters that could help us out on raids, seeing as multiple complexe classes is too hard to box on a riad.

I definetly want a warrior on one account(not the beasts) and a cleric on one :) and a chanty on one, but those 3 are low on the DPS hehe.

My idea of a from the ground up 4 box was
Cleric/Ranger/War/Enchanter
My 1st account would end up being the priests clr/dru/shm
2nd account would be prety much melle dps bst/rng
After I did that I could PL some wizies.

I could put the war on the beastlords account but then I would be affraid, my beastlord would not get as much attention, because he is not a real tank class... and I would need one usualy, unless its normal ldons or trivial content.
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Tastian

I used to two box a cleric on raids a lot and still do sometimes.  If you are in the CH chain it's very easy and basically is an extra cleric.  You can do things like MoR that is big damage on some fights instead of having another cleric worry about it.  You can camp a rez bot "just in case".  It really depends what you are doing and how quick you are at juggling between chars.  If you are in a ring event with lots of adds and stray damage and throwing SLs around or whatever then cleric can take a lot more attention.  Wizard is a very easy two box that is nice and wizards stack well so that's always a good thing.  8)

Shambler

ok now Im in a delima.. I still cant decide if I want to increase my char investment in EQ or try EQ2.. which sounds like it may be more of what I wanted in a MMORPG... aka more casual friendly..I probably should just stay at 2 accounts.
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Ragnarson

65 Bst is my main and I MB a 65 wizard. Wizards are easy to use and the BAM of nukage at one time is awesome too. My wizard is also the number one damage wizard in the guild too. I am always in a group with a friend that plays 4 toons (war, clr, wiz, enc) or I am on a raid so that is why I picked a wizard for the DPS it has.
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Incite

Quote from: SuthiaMy guild has a lot of 2boxed clerics but we'd much prefer to have single boxed clerics because they can focus more on healing (aka assist heals).

It's funny you say that ... my cleric finds it very difficult being in a heal chain but assist healing she finds extremely easy.  I can fight at near full efficiency when she assist heals, but when she's in a chain I find it very difficult to keep up DPS unless the mob is static (pinned).
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Tastian

Well what do you consider "assist" healing?  I know some that consider the spots dropped on MT during CH chain assist healing.  When I say assist healing I mean running around curing random OTs, blasting other healers that pull aggro etc.  If my cleric is in the group with me then it's nps to spot heal the group members or others I see yank aggro, but on 2-9(ish) pulls there are just too many different people getting aggro at different times well I'm running around slowing on bst and what not to keep both chars close to their efficency.  

In CCH chain it's really just hitting one button and moving as needed.  Can be some leg work on some mobs and I might lose a bit of effectiveness on bst, but not usually very much.  Really just curious hehe I'm always interested in how others play and how they do it.  I know from an actual interface point of view I play different than most which has its advantages and disadvtanges so always curious to see how that translates to differances in actual performance.  8)

Tardar

Our clerics always refer to assist healing being they target a mob, and then use ToT to heal whoever has agro, in other words, they are assisting the mob.  They call healing the MT between CHeals as Spot Healing.  Interesting to hear the different lingo.

What do you all call it when the MA backs himself into a corner, with the mob facing him, and everyone else beating on it's butt?  In our guild we call that AOW, as in Avatar of War and the way you fight him.  "We will AOW him in the NE corner"

Tastian

It's funny to me because I've been on so many servers lol.  I personally consider "spot healing" what is done by shm/dru/others during a CH chain.  like "need lots of SPOTS on this one".  I consider assist healing literally what you said with the HoTT or just /assist mob and blasting people.  I've heard people refer to "spotting" as "assist healing" because they are "assisting" the clerics in healing the tank.  I think this is kinda like "ports" and "GG" or "gates".  Just like Gfay or EC or NFP for old bazaar days.  Most of the fights you called AOW are refered to as "cornering".  "We are going to CORNER xxx"  then there's "PIN!! We need to PIN yyy"  or "Gotta WALK  zzz".  

Trying to think of other things I've seen that are basically just different server to server.  Sadly I see "kitty crack" on a lot of servers, but see bst-clarity, discowolfy, and /gasp SD sometimes hehe.

Incite

Quote from: TastianTrying to think of other things I've seen that are basically just different server to server.  Sadly I see "kitty crack" on a lot of servers, but see bst-clarity, discowolfy, and /gasp SD sometimes hehe.

Well, I always ask for SD.

;)
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Incite

Quote from: TastianWell what do you consider "assist" healing?  I know some that consider the spots dropped on MT during CH chain assist healing.  When I say assist healing I mean running around curing random OTs, blasting other healers that pull aggro etc.  

She targets mobs, assists them, heals, BoVs, etc.
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Shambler

I only refer to vah shir (my beasts) SD as cat crack :p
but if anyone asked me for kity crack I would hapily moon them.
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Tastian

Oh another I noticed well hoping between servers was clarity.  Some places it's C# (1-5), but other spots it's just kei, voq, etc.