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Everquest 1 => Spells => Topic started by: Ermaach on October 03, 2006, 02:26:26 AM

Title: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Ermaach on October 03, 2006, 02:26:26 AM
I was wondering what all spell sets you guys used. If you wouldn't mind list what you use that set for, and what all spells are on that set. I just recently started playing a beastlord and am interested in seeing how I should set up.

Any help is appreciated, thanks before hand.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Inphared on October 03, 2006, 02:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ermaach on October 03, 2006, 02:26:26 AM
I just recently started playing a beastlord and am interested in seeing how I should set up.

Are you looking for a high-end spellset, or something lower level?

If it's high end, my generic setup is:

1 -- Growl of the Panther
2 -- Promised Mending (Yes, I use it)
3 -- Ruthless Ferocity
4 -- Minohten Mending
5 -- Spiritual Enlightenment
6 -- Sha's Legacy
7 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
8 -- Spiked Sleet
9 -- Bestial Empathy

That changes on raids, but that's what I use most often.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Nusa on October 03, 2006, 03:07:26 AM
My generic setup for raiding looks like this:
1- slow
2- nuke
3- nuke
4- Bestial Empathy
5- fero
6- feral guard (pet summon in pet setup) (invis in travel setup) (focus in buff setup)[ utility slot ]
7- heal
8- Growl of the Panther (pet haste in pet setup)(SV in buff setup)
9- SA (pet proc in pet setup) [ utility slot ]

Most of my setups only change slots 6,8,9, so I always have key spells memmed. If I solo, I may stick DoT's in the utility slots, but they're not formal sets.

Only level 72 so far, so I've not dealt with all the new spells yet.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Shieara on October 03, 2006, 04:18:14 AM
For general soloing/Exping at level 70

1. Healing of Mikkily
2. Ferocity
3. Muada's Mending
4. Growl or the Panther
5. Feral Vigor
6. Frost Spear/Sha's Legacy/Festering Malady/Chimera Blood depending on content
7. Bestial Empathy
8. Sha's Revenge
9. Glacier Spear

I am relatively gimp though.

For raiding I used to use basically the same setup, but I would drop the regen (putting in feral guard) and usually load the level 70 slow.  If I was on SA duty I put that in where my 2nd nuke would go.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Shamno on October 03, 2006, 04:56:44 AM
pet proc
pet haste
pet heal
nuke
nuke
Growl
Fero
heal
BE

the 2nd nuke, growl and fero get switched oiut depending on the situations....such as tanking, slowing, buffing etc. The main setup though is my DPS setup.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: hakaaba on October 03, 2006, 06:49:24 AM
pet slow
growl of the panter
incapacitate (or a situational buff)
slow
bestial empathy
ice nuke
pet heal
player heal
ancient: ice nuke

It changes slightly for solo and raids of course
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Inphared on October 03, 2006, 11:36:09 AM
Posting my two raid setups, as I was tired and didn't complete my first post in this thread.

For "endurance" fights:

1 -- Growl of the Panther
2 -- Promised Mending
3 -- Ruthless Ferocity
4 -- Minohten Mending
5 -- Healing of Uluanes
6 -- Spiritual Enlightenment
7 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
8 -- Spiked Sleet
9 -- Bestial Empathy

For "burn" fights:

1 -- Growl of the Panther
2 -- Bestial Empathy
3 -- Ruthless Ferocity
4 -- Spiked Sleet
5 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
6 -- Glacier Spear
7 -- Ancient: Frozen Chaos
8 -- Trushar's Frost
9 -- Frost Spear

I consider an Endurance fight to be something like Hatchet, Roley, Sullon Zek, Hanvar, Jelvan (If you balance them), or Rathe Council (old school). I consider Burn fights to be something like Redfang, Zi-Thuuli, or Gnarlibramble.

Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Jequec on October 03, 2006, 12:56:18 PM
1)Heal
2)Pet Heal (Promised or Blast, depending on situation)
3) BE
4) Sleet
5) Ancient Ice
6) Glacier Spear
7) S. Enlightenment
8) Slow (again, Sha's or Steeltrap--whatever I think is needed)
9) level 65 fero

That's in a raid scenario where I forgo the use of Growl (since I usually have a shaman championing me/pet). If I were solo, I'd replace SE down there with Growl.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Kanan on October 03, 2006, 01:27:10 PM
my setup's all kindsa fubar ;p

1) nuke
2) SE
3) BE/3rd nuke (rare to do latter)
4) Pet heal
5) Growl
6) nuke/slow (nuke for raids/dps groups, slow for solo/slowing groups)
7) Targetable heal
8) Utility slot (pet rune, buff, etc)
9) Fero, tho I dunno why I bother anymore.  I never cast it.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Kenusten on October 03, 2006, 05:00:39 PM
1.) Growl of Panther
2.) Nuke
3.) Dot
4.) Incapacitate
5.) Slow
6.) Pet heal
7.) Heal
8.) Ferocity
9.) Bestial Empathy

My primary role is tanking or back up tanking.  I use slow and incapacite to help with aggro.  My biggest cold nuke shortly helps with that too.  Have to hold of on growl so aggro doesn't switch when I cast it.  BTW,  mana flare from an enc helps with aggro and DPS too (for hyrbids anyway).  Get DD or lifetap augs in your weapons to give mana flare a better chance of proccing.  It also procs on shaman panther, so if you are in a group with a shaman and an enc, get shaman panther and mana flare.  Note  only works on hybrids, not pure melee or bards.

Never really cast fero on myself, but there are a couple of attack junkies in guild and I also use it to boost resists when someone is poorly geared.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Nusa on October 03, 2006, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Jequec on October 03, 2006, 12:56:18 PM
That's in a raid scenario where I forgo the use of Growl (since I usually have a shaman championing me/pet). If I were solo, I'd replace SE down there with Growl.

Champion
3:     Increase ATK by 140
4:    Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 10%
5:    Increase AGI by 140
6:    Increase STR by 140
7:    Increase DEX by 140

Growl of the Panther
1:     Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 20%
6:    Increase Hitpoints v2 by 150 per tick
7:    Increase Max Hitpoints by 1500
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Tayken Mytime on October 06, 2006, 01:23:44 AM
1. Heal
2. Fero *or free slot*
3. growl of panther
4. bestial empathy
5. big cold n00k
6. bigger cold n00k
7. cripple *aggro holder*
8. slow
9. reminds me i need to buy this aa sometime

course have pet spell saved. and solo saved

later


Tay
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: hokarz on October 06, 2006, 08:50:06 AM
so champion and Growl stack? or Just won't block each other and you get the better benefit of each slot?


1 70 slow
2 heal
3 nuke
4 haste
5 fero
6 growl
7 nuke
8 pet heal
9 BE

in raids I swap out haste for SA because someone is always dying
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Nusa on October 06, 2006, 11:04:11 AM
Champion and Growl of the Panther stack, but you only get the higher All Skills Damage modifier. For those that have maxed str/agi/dex with gear and normal buffs and run Growl, the only remaining benefit from Champion is the 140 attack bonus.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Tigrah on October 06, 2006, 07:56:47 PM
Standard combat set
1 growl of panther
2 pet heal
3 target heal
4 incapacitate
5 slow
6 highest level poison dot
7 next highest level poison dot
8 nuke
9 flash of light

For soloing in veksar:
6 high level nuke
7 slow cast, quick reuse nuke
8 nother fast cast nuke
9 flash of light
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: zmanone on October 26, 2006, 10:11:18 AM
Raid setup
1. Fero
2. Feral Guard (occasionally use spellbreakers)
3. Spiked Sleet
4. Ancient Salvage Ice
5. Heal
6. Spiritual Enlightenment or swap for slow
7. Beastial Empathy
8. Growl of panther
9. Pet Heal

Group Setup and soloing
1. Fero
2. Slow (70 or 65 depending on zone)
3. Spiked Sleet
4. Ancient Salvage Ice (swap for dot if kiting)
5. Heal
6. Beastial Empathy (swap for Dot if kiting)
7. Growl/Dot/pet slow depending
8. Pet Heal
9. Incapacitate

Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Kerena on October 26, 2006, 05:11:42 PM
Zee's usual memmed spells
1. Heal
2. Heal Pet
3. Slow 65
4. Slow 70
5. Haste
6. Invis
7. Beastial Empathy
8. Promised Mending
9. Growl
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Skratz on October 26, 2006, 05:40:48 PM
Skratz's setup
1. Fero
2. Nuke
3. Nuke
4. 70 slow
5. 65 slow
6. growl
7. swapspellgem (invis, SE, SV, petheal) whatever I need at the moment
8. haste (spellguard on raids)
9. Beastial Empathy
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Khauruk on October 26, 2006, 06:59:03 PM
1 - Heal
2 - lvl50 slow (agro)
3 - 70 slow
4 - BE Pet
5 - nuke
6 - nuke
7 - nuke
8 - Growl
9 - pet heal.

Spellsets swap out number 2 and last 3 depending on situation.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: maxawesome on October 27, 2006, 06:48:33 PM
On my 71 on AB:

1) Heal
2) Pet Heal
3) Highest Frost Nuke
4) Next Highest Frost Nuke
5) Disempowering Debuff
6) Sha's Revenge
7) Sha's Legacy
8) Growl

On my 55 on FV:

1) Heal
2) Pet Heal
3) Highest Frost Nuke
4) Next Highest Frost Nuke
5) Next Highest Frost Nuke
6) Highest Slow
7) SoW
8) Pet Proc Buff

On FV, my 55 wears Ornate Tunic and Pants as well, so he has clicky haste and clicky pet haste.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Mewzee on January 20, 2007, 09:41:55 AM
During Raid Setup/Trash Killing/Buffing/Using pet - this is my usual raid set up.

1 -- Frost Spear
2 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
3 -- Spiked Sleet
4 -- Spiritual Enlightenment
5 -- Promised Mending
6 -- Frenzy
7 -- Bestial Empathy
8 -- Minohten Mending
9 -- Ruthless Ferocity

Raid Set up to "burn" = More Fero for the Melee + use Pet
1 -- Frost Spear
2 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
3 -- Spiked Sleet
4 -- Ferocity of Ironu
5 -- Promised Mending
6 -- Frenzy (sometimes gets switched to growl of panther)
7 -- Bestial Empathy
8 -- Minohten Mending
9 -- Ruthless Ferocity

For Grouping Purposes or even Soloing..
1 -- Frost Spear
2 -- Ancient: Savage Ice
3 -- Spiked Sleet
4 -- Sha's Legacy
5 -- Heal of Ullanes
6 -- Frenzy
7 -- Bestial Empathy
8 -- Minohten Mending
9 -- Promised Mending


Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Soriab on February 27, 2007, 02:43:13 PM
1. Pet Heal
2. Growl
3. Slow
4. Spiked Sleet
5. Ancient: Savage Ice
6. Glacier Spear
7. Poison Dot
8. Heal
9. Fero
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Fuzkitty on February 27, 2007, 03:17:05 PM
Group setup

heal
spiked sleet
ancient
70 slow (changes if there's a chanty or shammy in group)
poison dot
disease dot
incapacitate
PM
invis (utility)

Raid

1-3 same
Fero
Glacial Spear
pet haste
pet proc
PM
growl
It'll change once I get BE and growl upgrade. Can't find groups for them now
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Tigrah on February 27, 2007, 03:35:20 PM
I've actually made a few changes since last I posted in this thread,  and stand to make yet another when i get BatM.

Standard combat set
1 growl of panther
2 pet heal
3 target heal
4 incapacitate
5 slow
6 highest level poison dot
7 next highest level poison dot
8 nuke
9 Promised Mending

When I get BatM
1 Growl of Panther
2 Pet Heal
3 Target Heal
4 Incapacitate (or FoL if tanking)
5 Slow
6 BatM
7 Highest Poison Dot
8 Highest Nuke
9 Promised Mending
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Petts on February 27, 2007, 04:41:25 PM
For solo'ing I use

1. Player Heal
2. Nuke
3. DoT
4. 70 Slow
5. nuke
6. Haste
7. Pet Heal
8. DoT
9. Beastial Empathy

For raids I use

1. Player Heal
2. Nuke
3. Shrink    i swap this out for another nuke once raid begins.
4. Nuke
5. Nuke
6. Fero
7. Pet Heal
8. Regen      either health or SE, someone always asking for an SE
9. Beastial Empathy
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Maylian on February 27, 2007, 05:45:38 PM
Group:

1. Fero
2. Slow
3. Spiked Sleet
4. Bestial Empathy
5. Ancient
6. Growl of the Panther
7. Swappable (Haste, SE, SV, SteeltrapJaws)
8. Pet Heal
9. Player Heal

Raid:

1. Fero
2. Glacier Spear
3. Spiked Sleet
4. Bestial Empathy
5. Ancient
6. Growl of the Panther
7. Promised Mending
8. Pet Heal
9. Player Heal

Obviously once I get "Bite of the Empress" I will switch it out with Ancient nuke for groups and Glacier for raids.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Blarp on February 28, 2007, 06:31:42 AM
Player Heal
Slow
Nuke
nuke
nuke
Dodh pet
Fero
pet heal
Growl


Raids

target heal
slow
NUke
nuke
nuke(or dots Depending on the zone)
Dodh pet
Fero
fero
Growl


ha ha fiorgot soloing list to

Target heal
Slow
slow(or nuke on zone)
Nuke
dodh pet
fero pet buff 1
pet buff 2
growl
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Humlaine on March 01, 2007, 03:07:14 AM
Raid set up number 1 ( normal )
1. Bite of the Empress rk2
2. spiked sleet rk2
3. Ancient: savage ice
4. Glacier spear
5. Growl of the panther
6. Minohten Mending rk 2
7. Bark at the moon rk2
8. Ruthless Ferocity rk2
9. Ferocity of Irionu

optional raid I swap

FoI for Sha's legacy

Glacier spear for a cure / SE for buffage or pet buffs

Solo

1. Bite of the Empress rk2
2. Spike Sleet rk2
3. Incapacitate
4. Promised Mending rk2
5. Growl of the Panther
6. Minohten Mending rk2
7. Bark at the Moon rk2
8. Sha's Revenge
9. Sha's legacy

sometimes I demem bite for ancient and incap for other spells as needed but this is my general list I use 99% of the time
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Urim on March 01, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
I am simply amazed at the amount of people that still bother to mem Ferocity in all its forms. Complete waste of a spell slot imo. My solo/raid setups dont differ very much. They look something like this:

Solo
1. Haste
2. Sha's Legacy
3. Bark at the Moon
4. Nuke
5. Nuke
6. Heal
7. Promised Mending
8. Incapacitate
9. Growl of the Panther

Group/Raid
1. Nuke
2. Sha's Legacy
3. Bark at the Moon
4. Nuke
5. Nuke
6. Heal
7. *Varies based on encounter*
8. Spiritual Enlightenment
9. Growl of the Panther
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: zezashetan on March 01, 2007, 11:10:32 AM
I have many gem setups.

1: Pet heal
2: Fero
3: Heal
4: slow
5: haste
6: Growl
7: DoT
8: DoT

This is what I normaly group with.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Nusa on March 01, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: Urim on March 01, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
I am simply amazed at the amount of people that still bother to mem Ferocity in all its forms. Complete waste of a spell slot imo. My solo/raid setups dont differ very much. They look something like this:

Complete waste for YOU, I agree. However, the bulk of us don't have maxed resists with normal buffs. +65 to all resists still has meaning to me in many raid scenarios.

1:Slow
2:Nuke
3:Nuke
4:BE
5:Fero/Utility
6:SE/Utility
7:Heal
8:Growl
9:Delayed pet heal
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Humlaine on March 02, 2007, 06:06:06 AM
fero has its advantages and disavantages...in my book its useless but I keep it memed so I dont get bitched at by the RL/ officers
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: zezashetan on March 03, 2007, 05:11:53 AM
Quote from: Urim on March 01, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
I am simply amazed at the amount of people that still bother to mem Ferocity in all its forms. Complete waste of a spell slot imo. My solo/raid setups dont differ very much.

I am only 71 and I have only a 1500 atk unbuffed. I am also on a pvp server so any amount of Resist are golden. Heck, i had frenzy memmed at all time until I was in my high 60's and my agi was maxed without buffs!
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Gatorr on March 04, 2007, 08:26:21 AM
basic set up

1:Minohten mending Rk. II
2:Spiked Sleet Rk. II
3:Bite of Empress
4:Bestial Empathy
5:growl of the panther
6:Mammoth-Hide Guard Rk. II
7:Sha's Revenge (Spiritual Enlightenment Rk. II on raids)
8:Sha's Legacy
9:Healing of Uluanes Rk. II

I do have all my spell sets used though most are dif buffs while others are dependent on what zone I am hunting in and if I am using my pet to help split mobs while I CoH with my mage,  in those cases I will have promised mending and mammoth hide always memmed.
Title: Re: How do you guys set up your spell gems?
Post by: Fornax on May 16, 2007, 03:32:54 PM
1.slow(short duration)
2.nuke
3.nuke
4.misc(whatever is needed for situation)
5.misc(same as above)
6.growl
7.heal
8.pet heal
9.slow(long duration)

Also have spell sets specifically for pet buffing, buffing self, buffing group, and spells that work on below level 30 characters, then again I'm a neat freak too.