Since there isn't a level 70-75 hunting section yet, I was just wondering what types of places a 71ish beastlord could go to hunt solos while he waits for someone to respond to his LFG.
I was thinking S. Springs myself, but anyone want to share a secret or two with me? :-D
Well... PoFire and Arcstone turn LB at 71.
I imagine most soloable spots in RCoD or WoS also do...
Unless your really geared and can solo MPG level content.. i'm not sure where there are dark blues soloable for all but end game beasts... Course if your anguish geared, you could probably go play in MPG if find a spot to single pull.
Gear has a massive impact on it. The new con system also skews things a bit for some people. Beastlords used to thrive at blazing through a large number of almost trivial mobs, but the new downtime changes and con system tends to make many shy away from this. I'd suggest bouncing around and seeing what actually works for you. Springs has a few spots, the planes have some, if geared MPG is do-able, etc. Just so many variables and I honestly haven't had time to benchmark a lot of places yet myself. 8P
WoS murks are LB at 71 now; there goes my favorite spot =/
Although I can solo MPG trash, it takes quite a bit out of me - with the new OoC system tho it might be worthwhile trying.
I have a feeling that most mobs in the Hive (non-instanced) will still be DB at 71, I'm going to check it out later tonight.
c1 has turned LB. 2 kills wasn't even 1% regular 71 xp.
I'm gonna try messing around in the steppes some.
Glacier sucks. Man.. I slowed em & wasn't noticing a change in how fast those wolves were popping me.
keep in mind that green con mobs give exp now and lt blues are the old dk blues. I tried the steppes, but the mobs hit pretty hard and I burn through mana so fast trying to stay alive and kill the mob faster that I found it was slower than GE. I WEnt to GE and it was no different at 71, than it was at 70...except the mobs died faster and I made money faster, but the exp flow was the same. Aaxp was about 3% per 2 kills which it was at 70.
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PoFire C2 - 11% aa exp, 0.5% real exp per mob. Dark Blues
Strains my mana/life here badly per fight... but I can kill here with about 95% chance to live.
I need conviction though.
Arcstone - mostly light blue(70%) some dark blue(30%)
GE inner - (all light blue... about 6-8 kills per 1% i think)
PoFire C1 - (all light blue)
WoS - light blue if above poster is correct.
RCoD - betting its 50/50 light blue/dark blue.. but we can't pet pull anymore so... /shrug.
MPG - little harder than C2 and all should still be dark blue.
Either want to kill GE(lowest light blues) for speed(tho it gets boring)... or be killing in the Dark blue range for exp bonus...(tho that gets hard).
Haven't tried veksar for the bonus yet.
Sunderrock is giving 7-9% aa exp at 71 for dark blues...
about 30% are dark blue in lower half of zone... about 70% are dark blue in north... or more.
something I think I'm a lil unclear on:
I know AA xp is now determined by their con relative to your level.
Is the amount of regular xp determined upon this same scale? If so, GE is sounding like a good bet, since c1 sucks badly now solo.
860 was max hit in sunderrock, triple hit usually, rare 5hit.
partial slow... some are indiff to me.. some kos...
few spots to single pull a few here and there.
It's ok... its a little harder than Plane of Fire C1 for the same exp at 71.
Looks like mostly groups and an end to soloing for now... at least efficient soloing.
Druids and necros in my guild are reporting that mammoths and wolves in Icefall glacier are excellent XP and don't summon, as well a a source of rank 2 spells.
Unfortunately I can't kite so well :|
anyone messed around in middle to northern steppes? Or just the S part of the steppes?
Wondering how it is for solo xp. Didn't seem that spectacular the tiny bit I messed around in beta. But I didn't try that much honestly.
my simple thought:
If you are under 10k unbuffed..you will find it difficult to find dark blues you can solo as you progress 71-73...
once you hit 73-75.. i cannot think of dark blues that are soloable reliably that could be tanked by a beast soloing.
So its back to speed killing Lblues or grouping...
This is all assuming there isnt some sweet spot in TSS with 700 hitting yellow cons..... :) like the shaman/druid sweet spot of no summon and yellow/red con to 71...
Quote from: Vidyne on September 20, 2006, 09:30:44 PM
This is all assuming there isnt some sweet spot in TSS with 700 hitting yellow cons..... :) like the shaman/druid sweet spot of no summon and yellow/red con to 71...
ie, TSS's version of 69.1 hard.
I think I probably agree with ya so far. We'll see soon. Test tomorrow, so I gotta put in a lil book time to refresh my mind with what I looked at last week ;p
gratz 1000 posts
I played in alot of the new zones today. only really decent xp i got was in Sunderock Springs. Was easy for me solo and even killed a couple yellow con named mobs. Gnolls in Steppes are easier. AND in Direwind Cliffs, me and a mage friend were doin red and yellow cons easily. The xp there was better than 69.1 hard at 71.
Ok kind of an update. I did a quest today in Sunderock Springs from Anaglass. I killed like 30 mobs and one of the 3 rewards was a 50 mana/end aug with 15 atk and FT3 on it. Very decent aug. Gonna do the next series and post what I find.
Tried briefly to find Anaglass. Any tips?
Anaglass:
-2118, -722
Southeast part of the zone, roughly northeast of the southern spire.
ty sir :) time to pick up this task when I head through later today :)
Not much of a solo'er so I'm not sure, but Sunderock sounds great from what I am reading, would definately stay in the new zones when I can. For group XP and potential spell drops Direwind is great. I was able to get from 70.99 to 75 in two sessions (prolly total 16 hours including downtimes(deaths)), and aaxp is just insanely fast. Mobs are plentiful and camps are numerous. A few times today we had over 110 in zone on Xegony server without too many group collisions.
Direwind is 10%aa ish per mob at 75, solo. Spent a little time killing some blue con wolves and griffons for some task, it wasn't too bad, especially since you can med back to full pretty damn quick, heh. I'd usually hit a HoT potion if I had a few slow resists, they seemed to hit up to 1200ish, though most hits were lower. Decent solo place for someone raid geared, I guess.
Made 74 and was looking for something to do. Was pretty late at night so i decided to check out Blackfeather Roost. Yeah its a lower end zone but I had heard so much about it I had to go check it out. Let me start off by saying I love the way this zone is set up. The levels are set up so you have to do a little quest to feed the griffon before you can advance to the next level. The entire zone up to lvl 5 was grey/green and light blue to me. Didnt make the last level. I spent about an hour just messing around in here and ended up with 5 decent lvl 45 to 53 Req twink items and to my astonishment I made 11 percent exp. I hadnt expected to see the exp gain as most of what I was killing was green. Was never in any real danger. Mobs are spaced well apart and single pulling would have been a non issue, I didnt see the need to single pull. Did all of the quests and side quests to get up to lvl 5. To access the last level you need to kill 5 royal guards and the guard captain. Well having got so used to pulling multiple mobs the guards were all green to me and the capt was light blue. Six mobs i think no problem. LOL, Loading..........
Anyway if your bored and looking for something to do this isnt a bad zone ot mess around in. No 11 percent an hour isnt the fastest in the world but it beats sitting in the guild hall LFG. Additionally I made 1200 plat off vendor loots in this zone as well. Feathers sell for around 25 to 30p a piece and i had a little over 3 stacks plus lots of gems and polished teeth which sell well also.
in the Steppes, the gnolls are fairly easy to solo. The archers/sharpshooters are interesting in that they actually shoot you from afar (hit was usually under 150, but for quadders, would complicate it tremendously). Pet was able to tank effectively using Promised Mending (cast real early, like pre 90% usually), so 2 pulls were fine. It was fun duoing this with a wizard friend for a bit ;p
The xp sucked, since many of the mobs are about 65 (spent abt an hr there, popped lessons towards the end and got like 9% of 74 =/). I know some're 65 bcs FB fired on some.
It was fun tho. Think my friend was getting like 3% AA/kill solo, so it may be a poor substitute for c1, but I think I was killing faster than I would at C1, and it was different, and amusing ;p
I have had a rkII warrior disc drop from them. Not sure if there are other rkII items on their loot table.
east or west of the river taig?
I was working mostly west of the river, near the tunnel leading into the giant area.
Some giants and leopards see invis over there btw.
Was in the very NE corner of the gnoll camp. There is a quest dude named craignaw (gobber) or something similar in the southern portion of the zone that wants you to kill 20 gnolls and then deliever an obsidian sword to him. Apparently that sword drops from a named gnoll who can pop on the north side /shrug. There are at least two mobs that path near this corner so probably isn't the safest hunting spot. To find the NPC head west from the southern zone in. About 1/2 way into the ruins head up (north) over the lip there. Is nestled in a roundish ruin type deal.
Kanan - any idea what the cartography tools are for
/chuckle... no clue Taiglin. I'll work the other side next time I head out that way.
Any LB areas at 75 for speed killing and 1-2% aa per kill like Griegs?
So far these are mostly DB areas which may be rough gear depending.
Those are our two solo options imo.
lowest LBs for speed killing, or highest DB/White/Yellow for drain all my mana in one fight, but win and get a bit AA % then rest.
OLD LB = NEW GREEN
remember this folks.
You get xp from killing greenies now.
If you want to just mow things down for fast xp, go find the zones with the greenies in em. Goru'kar Mesa, north, is a likely candidate.
http://forums.beastlords.org/index.php?topic=6942.0 (http://forums.beastlords.org/index.php?topic=6942.0) Its an explanation there.
I know we've spent years and years and years used to an old system, but its changed, and won't be going back to how it was, totally. I like the new con system frankly. I hated killing LB mobs before and still do today. Now they're easier to avoid, since its a nice bright green ;p
Just as an aside, if you have issues with the new con system you can always use a custom ui and change the colors of the targeting rings. I had to do this because I couldn't see the distinction between the white and grey con mobs.
There are actually a lot of older places that lower geared people can go to exp. Kill rate can still be viable because some people spend 1-2 minutes each mob just medding, not counting extra time spent chewing through hps...
C1 in PoF is ~1/3rd the exp per kill as C2 in fire at 71(ish)
BoT is still light blue into 74 and blazing mobs down up top I actually pulled in about as much exp during a lesson as I do at C2.
Droga, is annoying because of level range of mobs, if they were more consistant you could rack up solid chain killing exp here. Even down at king area though you have greys and assorted greens at 73(ish). The mobs don't even require slowing really if you have some gear/AA and lifetaps and you can easily take 3+ at a time. On top of that they drop solid money and some tributeable stuff.
Plane of valor, the caves right to the west as you zone in. Mobs don't mitigate slow, they run low on life, fetter stops them dead in their tracks, very low dps output, still light blue at 74(ish)? forget I haven't been back in a bit. Mobs are built for blazing though and depending on dps can clear from the 2 tree frogs to the back of the second cave and then run back out and start again as they respawn. Again can pull almost as much exp during a lesson here as at a spot like C2 or icefall.
These are all solo spots and low end ones. The biggest advantage to these spots is safety and interaction. I've spent some time out in icefall solo'n mammoths that crack me for 1650(ish) a shot and although the exp is nice on the kill, there is downtime, the chance of death from spike damage is high, and sometimes I don't have an automatic next pull. Some prefer the "kill, med, kill, med" approach that the OOC system has given, but for those that would rather be playing the game a higher % of the time the spots mentioned above are compareable in terms of exp to time ratio. *shrugs*
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I was referring to new LB(or old DB) Kanan
I want to kill the weakest DB(now LB) I can, or I want to kill the strongest mob I can and med after. Those are my two solo preferences.
At present, I've been soloing in Sunderock Springs and its 0.5% exp there usually... sometimes 0.4% a kill.
However it does get a little old and there is a chance of problem with adds, though much lower than C2 or MPG.
Grieg's end and I bet veksar now are green(old LB), and therefore I was looking for a new speed killing place.. which I will see if Valor is ok... before they had so much HP that GE beat it.. but there may not be anything between Valor and GE now since lvl cap increase. Torment would work, but there really isnt a steady supply of single/double pulls there that I remember.
I will look around for somewhere with a max hit lower than 500, but still LB and constant single/double pulls.
Perhaps Valor will be the only place.
Time to go look i guess.
Thanks for advice.
The hps on valor are "eh", but with leveling boosts to dps(double attack, warder, voracity, etc.) they go pretty fast, and I don't use mana for anything but dps. Closest thing to a heal I cast is growl. 8P
Mobs are pretty steady in that I just about clear in from the 2 frog pull outside, up tunnel, into next small cave, up tunnel, into next big cave, and then back out. Depending on gear mobs might be too light or maybe even have a minute to get some OOC regen. The damage on them is really light though. Most of the time I don't slow unless I have a few on me, but they don't mitigate slow at all, so again for various gear points the spot has some potential. All were LB at 73 as I recall. *shrugs*
Checked valor with another char last night. 2 pull out front, couple wanderers, 5(ish) in the tunnel, then 8 in the back tunnel. Max hit was 4(something) as I recall. If I pulled with a poison dot it'd fade just as they were about to flee, if I pulled with disease dot it wouldn't run it's duration, so kills are fairly fast. *shrugs*
Mobs are still all light blue at 74, which is when C2 goes LB. At 74 the mobs are ~1/2 the AA of C2 mobs. *shrugs*
2-3% aa per kill in Bastian of thunder
6-7% aa per kill in Sunderrock springs
both solo.
As strange tho... as when exping normally, it seemed to take 10 Valor mobs to equal 2-2.5 sunderrock mobs.
a ratio of 1 to 4
Where aa its a ratio of 1 to 3.
When did you hunt there Vid? As of the last patch or two lt blue and green cons have been given a temp AA xp boost to make up for the xp issues where you have a large level differential between two toons that are grouped. The way Rash sounded this isn't something that will always be there; more of a stop gap until they figure out a more granular way to sort who gets how much AA xp in those cases. My guess is that spills over to any AA xp to include soloing.
recently... today or yesterday.
hmm okie.
I've been enjoying BoT (again) as of late. I take to Sands and can kill about 2 per minute--I pull one with or without slow (if I am feeling saucy), and then Growl. It dies within 30 seconds, then I pull another and BE on that one...drops like a rock.
Net result: 2 dead per minute yielding 2% AA each for a gain of 4%
Just the sands part is large enough that I could not dream of killing them all before repops, though I do come somewhat close. I try to avoid the Krigers if at all possible since they are more trouble than they are worth. Otherwise, this is VERY easy, mindless xp.
In a LoTD session I can grind out just a little bit more than 2AAs, and while that is about half of what I could do in PoFire pre-TSS, it still is nice to be able to gain AAs during off hours or while LFG.
So far I've been able to experiment soloing in MPG and in RSS, MPG was reasonably doable with low downtime and didn't have to hit healing potions most of the time, even held down the Blind Hunter camp while I was there. ( Didn't do Taskfiend because chaotica = teh suke ) Now Riftseekers was...interesting, I tried some Pyrilens and liked the results, but adds would have deaded me for sure. I had to potion every time and spend time during the fight self healing while in melee just to keep myself from an out-of-body experience. As far as exp goes, I was going 100% regular and didn't try AA, mpg was around 1% every couple of mobs or so, and rss was 1% per, but I'll need to do more hunting to get more numbers.
hmm.... well I'm 8.4k unbuffed, easy 11.4k wi tena and my own buffs now at 73. I am working on ToB flagging so I can upgrade some of my gear, and I'm wondering given the approximately correct info on my magelo for AA's (which may not show that i have LR3), where I could solo wi/out having to kite?
fire c1 should be pretty easy for you to solo with your hp / gear....alot easier then back at 70
POV, HOH, Murks in WOS maybe.
I'm only 9k self buffed at 75 and have been soloing WoS easy since 73. Ferans, chimera's, bazus and dragorns in first half of zone are easy. With 73 pet you can have pet off tank an add if 1 pops, though at 73 it wasn't as easy as at 75 (go fig :-P). You should be able to take any of the named at this point, max level for named in that area is 73, but be careful, they were taking me out at 73/74 occasionally (i enjoy a good challenge LOL)
cool, pardon the dumb question but what does c1 fire mean?
The first castle in Plane of Fire is often referred to as C1. There is another castle deeper in that is referred to as C2.
Is plane of Fire C1 is the part at the first castle after you climb the mountain and float over.
oh.... well if you guys say I can handle it I'll have to give it a try just for the sake of effort and challenge :)
I concur, Fire C1 is good... or any of those spots.
73 pet has a monster HP upgrade.
It should be able to tank anything there and along with the efficiency of promised mending, at the worst you'll still have a viable pet cleric route.