OK, I am beginning to run out of things that are worth buying for a reasonable price. If you look at my magelo, and click on the Wish List profile, it will show me as I intend to be after a bunch more LDoN adventures. Using that as a starting point, does anyone have any upgrade suggestions for things I can shoot for to buy? I'm not sure where to go from here (I don't raid much).
Thanks for any help you can lend.
bloodmetal earing, ear symbol of the veteran or tear of the rainmaker.
War crested ring - not much hp on this one but its well worth it for the effect alone.
To be quite honest, your profile seems to be pretty much top of the line for non extreme bazaar loot and ldon. Once you get the LDoN leather type armor, the only real direction i can see you goin would be raid type armors. I am an HP addict (I have always always shot for most hp) so I would offer this as just some food for thought, your epic in offhand would be about a 100hp and 40atk upgrade at the cost of a lil less dps. For a while, I would use my offhand epic when tankin, and a WLK when wantin dps. Just my opinion.
I looked at the Bloodmetal Earring of Engagement, but it doesn't seem to really be worth it. I'm not going to swap out my FT ear of course, and over the Hoop I basically get 5 ac and 25 hps, in exchange for 15 mana and 7 wis. For the huge cost of the BEoE, I'm not sure I'm willing to make that swap.
The Tear of the Rainmaker is a little better though.
The Ear Symbol of the Veteran is a more interesting choice, but I haven't seen it for sale - and I'm afraid it would go for extremely huge money on Povar. I'll keep an eye out for it though.
I wouldn't trade either of my rings for the War Crested Ring. I do plan on getting the Anger of Druzzil aug from LDoN.
I would never give up dps for hps, so the epic is out.
Hmm, it looks like I'm going to have to start saving for the REALLY expensive stuff... oh well. Thanks for the suggestions!
you seem to be at the place i am at right now. nothing in bazaar under 100k or so worth buying. my suggestion to you is this: buy a ceramic incense burner of ro for range slot for ID4, then replace your non-ft ring with an earthen steel ring of resilience or whatever they are called. on aro that would probably run you about 200 plat, but they are both solid upgrades, that if you dont raid much, you probably won't replace.
Well, I won't go for the Ceramic Incense Burner of Ro, since it would be a pain to keep switching my current range item which is a HUGE boon to my play style (it has EE4 and Summoner's Boon on it), which includes lots of buffing. Also, I do plan on getting the Anger of Druzzil LDoN aug which is a better focus effect than ID4.
The Steel Ring is very nice, thanks for pointing it out. I'll have to keep an eye out for it (and start saving big time).
We are pretty much in the same boat.
I think the only real choices are stagnate or start raiding. You are 65, and the only thing left is bazaar and AAs unless you start raiding.
/derial on
Why do you not raid much? Is it your guild? or your playstyle/time? For me it's my guild. It's a famlily/casual guild and heaven knows I like the people, but it will never become a raiding guild. If I want to progress further with my character, then I think my only realistic choice is to raid...
/derail off
I would suggest buying Ornate patterns. Even if they are not that much of an upgrade, they turn into no-drop items, thereby preventing you from even considering selling/stripping just to twink an alt. ;)
I got these on a recent LDoN Hard mission from BB:
Gravedigger Arm Straps
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=44295
You might find these in the bazaar, but even more fun if you could get them to drop and win the roll. No idea what they would sell for, I just put them on my druid bot.
Might be worth it to use the arm straps instead of the muscus arms and go for this instead for your face:
Silver Face Mask of Steelslaves
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=43234
Another mask choice would be:
Mask of the Dragon Slayer
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=29319
This would improve your nukes except for Frost Spear.
Nice items Sempai, thanks. The Mask of the Dragon Slayer is especially sweet.
I've also found a couple of decent upgrades that are available through Droga quests, a place that I spend lots of time in:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=24863
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=23051
I have a couple of ornate pieces, but don't want to buy much more as I will end up replacing them with the mucus stuff anyway.
My guild raids sometimes, and I do attend usually, but it is more of a special event than a weekly occurence. We are currently up to Velious level stuff, and we occasionally do cool stuff like Doomshade, Rumblecrush, Innoruuk in Nadox, Overlord/Overseer, etc. so there are possibilities for me there.
The reason I don't raid more often is that it doesn't fit my play style. I have many interests, am married, and have a full time job with a longish commute. So usually I play EQ to have little fun or as a diversion or to hang with some friends. A marathon session is extremely rare for me, I'm not usually on for more than 2 hours at a time. I don't like to schedule my fun, I like to go on whenever I feel the urge, and never feel obligated to play. This works really well for me as I have been absolutely loving EQ for almost 5 years now. When I first started I was a little too crazed and had to quit for a while due to burnout, but that's not happened since I started enjoying myself this way.
Anger of Druzzil only boost magic based nukes and is thus worthless to a beastlord. Hope ye haven't gotten it yet. -_-;;
Another droppable face slot possibility would be the Rotting Eye Mask (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9486) - it doesn't have a focus effect, but it has slightly better Beastlord stats to my mind than the Mask of the Dragon Slayer.
If you have any tolerance at all for tradeskills, coldain shawl 8 might be a good long term project. I find the FT3 and 20% extended buff length to be a particular boon in LDoN and solo situations - I rarely wear my mantle of the rainmaker anymore, even though the hp/mana and stats are better.
Thanks for the heads up Argach! I didn't realize that - is that what this means in the lucy description?
Limit: Resist(Magic allowed)
I'll have to reevaluate all the ID4 items now, oh well.
That other mask is kinda cool too. The coldain shawl will become an option for me if I ever get a better haste item than the CoCW that I'm currently wearing.
QuoteThe coldain shawl will become an option for me if I ever get a better haste item than the CCoW that I'm currently wearing.
Shawl goes in the shoulder slot - it would be an upgrade to your Mantle of Ill Omen in just about every way. ;)
Oh right! My brain must still be addled from the New Year celebrations. OK then, if the tradeskill changes go live and seem reasonable I'll have to put the shawl on my list of things to do. I haven't been much of a tradeskiller in the past, but maybe now's a good time to take it up.
As usual, thanks for all the excellent advice.
You might even consider just doing shawl 7 (easily solo'd, albeit time intensive). and then get your epic (duo it fast with a good friend or two).
7th/WLK/EPIC is still excellent DPS, and the FT1 will add a bit of extra DPS/Ferocity more often... it would also free up some cash from the sale of the other two items to buy ornate gloves (v3 = more DPS)... etc.
8)
I feel your pain.
The bazaar upgardes are 150k plus and then you get items like this one dangled in front of you to make you think how much of a timesink the 8th shawl is:
Flowing Moss Mantle
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 25
DEX: +18 STA: +20 WIS: +12 INT: +12
AGI: +18 HP: +135 MANA: +125 SV FIRE: +20
SV MAGIC: +20
Required level of 65.
Effect: Haste (Worn) 41%
WT: 2.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, type 7: emptyDone
I missed that by the skin of my teeth the other night.
/sigh
Nox
Just off looking at ur Magelo, id suggest the Following:
Finger: War Creasted Ring
Hands: Gloves of the Khati Sha would be a solid upgrade
Face: Faceguard of Frozen Mana
Finger2: Valorum Ring of Gallentry (Im a firm believer that its better then Slime Ring)
Primary: Maybe look into doing some Hard Takish Ldons or save up alot and get Golden Wraps of the compact
Secondary: Look at doin ur epic, you can solo a lot of it and if not you need 1 group max and 4 hrs if ur lucky with spawns)
Back: Lodi Shield if you decide to do your epic
Waist: Belt of Grey Flesh from MM ldon
another point which im not sure has been mentioned
if you get the shawl, then you can get incense burner since the focus on 8th is better than ee4, if i recall correctly. just save the shield of valor for pet focus.
Well, I'd look into some of the 760 armor from MM (or, if you can find enough people to hunt with you, the good stuff from Guk). It's good bang-for-the-points gear and not only will it be upgrades to a lot of your gear, but you'll have access to all the LDoN-armor-only augment slots.
From what I see there are some easy upgrades for you... depending on how much money you have to spend.
I would change your gloves to Pristine Jeweled Gloves (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?level=65&id=44297).
Upgrade a couple slots with Stonehide gear... such as Stonehide Sleeves (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=30788) and Stonehide Tunic (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=30787).
Switch one of your bracers to a Bracer of Viscous Ooze (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27874).
Upgrade your helmet to a Crown of Narandi (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1746).
Put your WLK in your primary hand, then get Spiked Knuckles of Brawling (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62191) for your offhand. Toss a proc augment on it, and that combo will definitely increase your melee dps, as well as boosting your hps a bit.
Get a Face Mask of Frozen Mana (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=43414) to replace your face slot.
And finally, replace your neck slot with a Black Plated Collar (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=8787).
a good alternative to the ID4 items suggested is the focus rod from PoStorm.
war crested ring and fire pottery is ID4, while the PoS rod is Anger of E`ci.
if u nuke alot, and if GoD does not give us new resist base nuke, i would suggest the rod instead of the ring/burner. my reason:
- ring slot u can easily find better ones (i dont like war crested ring because of its low hp :x chardok ring2 has 85hp, and even coldain ring9 has 50hp+8pt DS. or the droga quest ring u listed about - mind u hoodlum item drop is super rare! :shock: ).
- the burner is great if u are in needs of the stats, but on DRo it is just too damn expensive :wink:
since u have mentioned the droga quests, here is my advice:
buy the hoodlum items! theyare damn rare :( if u decide to camp them, they drop relatively more common at the old chief room.
on the other hand, the blade that is used in earring is not that rare. u just need to camp jail room, there are a lots of deprecetors there.
hope this help
Is there an Anger of Ec'i aug in Everfrost? If so that boosts cold nukes only, which is all we have, i to use ceramic shield/summoners boon so i wouldnt go the Rod route, too much switching, get a warcrested ring, i love mine
Amusing BaubleIt has "slightly" better combat stats than the CSoV and you could interchange them when buffing. I had this drop off a named bee (BIG bee!!) in POMishief. He's a named that spawns right in front of the castle, we were there for awhile and had him spawn twice in a short period of time, he droped this both times. The group was 58 rogue, warrior, druid and bst (me) and a 65 cleric. I'm sure you could solo this guy at 65 and if you're careful you can take him at his spawn poiint, quick 10min job. :D
Great ideas here. I will probably look at getting a War Crested Ring, unless I get lucky with the hoodlum drops (i did actually get one this weekend, but no blades).
I'm hesitant to get any regular armor upgrades because I am getting closer to the mucus stuff now. However, if I get the money for a Crown of Narandi, it would be hard ot pass up.
The epic would be a dps downgrade for me, so I think I'll skip that. I think my weapon upgrade path is pretty clear, since I am only 5 Ruj Hills fights from the Slave's Hidden Orb.
So, for now, other than my LDoN work, I will concentrate on the ring slot and the face slot (many of the suggestions here sound good - I might do the ID3 face one if I don't get the ring, otherwise I'll see if the Rotting EYe Mask is obtainable). Also, I may start the coldain shawl quest... /shudder.
I would also consider getting the 760 point Immortal's MMC armor over the 1492 point Mucus GUK Armor. The increase's for the Guk do not warrant the 700 plus points increase per piece. If the Mucus Tunic still had the type 2, 2, 3 for slots then that would be worthwhile possibly.
Immortal Tunic
AC28 str10 Dex9 Wis8 HP75 Mana75 FR9 DR9 MR9
Type 1, 2, 3
Mucus Tunic
AC30 Sta13 Cha11 Wis10 Hp100 Mana100 FR12 DR12 PR12
Type 1, 2, 3
Like suggested I would get the epic for offhand. The haste, hps and stats alone make it worthwhile. Until you get Ambidexterity, any decrease in DPS by using Epic off hand wont make the difference between a win or a loss in most any situation. The 125hps plus the haste alone make it worth getting as you could replace your current haste item with a better stat/HP/mana item than a cocw. The Slaves orb with Epic would be a Killer combo till you get fortunate enough to get say a Golden Wraps of the Compact or Spiked Knuckles of Brawling with a new haste item, possibly the 36% haste Augment for 1150 pts.
(Off topic)
I solo a lot and Duo sometimes and find myself always having plenty of Mana, though sometimes wish I had more HP/ Regen. As a point for DPS, I still use Epic offhand and have no problems Duoing with a cleric in PoEarth or Fire and solo most other places no problem. (the cleric just has Velious quest armor) Though have not tried either since I got Ambidex.
(end off topic)
LDON Augs - REGEN till it is maxxed out. Vengeance Till maxxed out, I would not even consider any FT items till regen and veng maxxed.
LDON Hard Adventures - the potential for very nice drops as well as almost double the points per adventure make this a viable upgrade path. Each Theme has some things which would be incredible for the beastlord in general. Whether your the casual or the hardcore player. Lots of groups are Always looking for a slower and thats great for us even if we just land partial slows.
Tenal, I have to disagree with most of your post.
While I once also thought the guk stuff was not enough of an upgrade to warrant the extra points, I have changd my mind. I'm already nearing the end of my achievable upgrades - once I got the MMC stuff I am sure I would just end up saving for the guk stuff, so what would be the point?
Your point about hps while soloing makes no sense. Hps have absolutely no use when soloing. It is all about the regen. Mana regen is far more useful - what would you rather have on you, Regrowth or KEI? I am always running low on mana, never on hps.
Vengeance is good, but 5 atk vs. FT1 is very debatable. HP Regen vs. FT is just silly IMO.
And I would never ever use an epic over a WLK offhand. (Well, unless I didn't have the haste I have).
Basically, you are looking at it as if HPs are the be all end all of the game. If you are a raider, and your guild has plenty of dps, then maybe this is true. However in my case, as I said before, I solo extensively. Therefore, while hps are nice to have for me, they do not trump dps or mana regen.
Dont take this as me trying to recruit you but if you want better the only way is to get into a Rotation Guild
Triton
Blades of Law
Rising Ascension
Forces Unknown
Inverse Logic
Lore Keepers
Utopian
Stoic
Dark Legion
Firestormers
Capalus
I am missing one or two in there some where I think but oh well. If I missed them they arent on rotation and not really worth me tracking what they are doing.
I do have the option of going to a few of those guilds Soriab, but you know Twists of Fate is the best and I could never leave them ;) Besides Kailihn collects beastlords, we all end up there eventually anyway (10 out of 54 of our active members are beasts lol).
I am not ready to be in the position of going on and having to raid, even though I don't want to. Besides we raid once in a while - maybe one day we will be strong enough to progress a little further. As long as I'm having fun I'm willing to wait.
www.twistsoffate.org
Hmm I know we dont require you to raid but the more you raid the more you get is the rule of thumb.
to each their own for what they wish to achieve, HPS not the End all, but they help and HP regen helps much as well. As everyone plays different they need or want different items to get there. Mana Regen is nice but would be secondary to my being able to regen my hps or have my stats maxxed out. Solo or otherwise. Heck, if I get hit or my hps get low enough... let warder take over while I regen and heal a couple times.
Remember, there are many Many paths to choose, whichever one you choose or think is best might not be best, nor the paths which others show you when asked.... More than one path can be the correct one... that which offers most enjoyment for you and your playstyle is it...
Good luck with whatever you deem is your style.
I know many of these guilds don't require raiding, but they usually do expect you to raid if you are online when a raid is beginning or ongoing. And of course they raid a bit more than ToF does.
Tenal, I don't know where you got the idea I want to disagree with everyone. I specifically thanked people in almost every one of my posts. I now have an upgrade path thanks to this thread, which I didn't have before. (Note that getting advice from a bunch of people doesn't mean I have to agree with all of it.)
If I didn't say it enough, thanks for all the help and advice.