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Didn't see that elsewhere. I highlighted a few question marks, and added DPoC focused pets...

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Note 1: Pet Information was from submittions, please post any corrections to this table!

Special Abilities

1. Shielding:
   
   
   • Warder's DO NOT use /Shield often..
     
   • You need to be under 30-40% life. They dont always use the ability when you drop low(random chance).
     
   • You need to stand -RIGHT- next to your pet--not having the pet behind the mob melee'ing---Note that this might be why pet doesn't always shield you when you drop low.
     
   • Warder's can use the level 30 warrior disc /shield, which allows the warder to absorb -some- damage that would otherwise go to you sort of like a migitation boost, instead of taking 100 damage, you take 50, and pet takes 50(or more).
   
   
2. Enrage:
   
   
   • This is triggered when the warder drops to about 10% life left...
     
   • When Enraged, the pet riposte's ALL attacks made from it from the FRONT(if warder is gang-banged by many mob's, it cant riposte attacks from behind)....
     
   • Enrage lasts about 12 seconds, then the pet can be hit normally.
     
   • Enrage has a long "recast" time. if you can suspend your pet, unsuspending it will reset enrage timer.
     
   
   
3. High regen:
   
   
   • Focussed pet regens hp at a much higher rate. 6% regen has been reported for the unbuffed DAoC focused pet (ie about 275 hp/tic).
     
   
   

(1) rare quad with 2 1H weapons.

Note: All of the warders from level 39 and up have the warrior ability of /shield.
DPOC = Diamond Prism of Companionship, LDON Takish foci augment, 760 points, North Ro camp.

Note: Edited to ads the info I found on SOAS.
SOAS = Symbol of Ancient Summoning
CCS = Cherisher Companion Shard
GoDF = Girdle of Dark flame
Updated regen & focus info from Warder Focus Items (http://beastlords.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=380) topic
Added the info below on 60 DPoC pet
Added info since 25th march patch.
Updated DPoC since march 30 patch
Added GoDF (lvl 65 pet) GOD focus as per Xalmat post.
Added Spirit of Undalla (68lvl warder) as per Razimir post.

Updated your chart a bit, also added comments from the website for those that dont know some of the abilities/terms

Any chance of changing the colors on that chart? Black on dark grey is tough to read.

which is black on dark grey?

all the letters are white, unless your broswer is ignoring the style sheet, in which case you shouldnt see this board correctly at all :-P

oh, i see, subsilver profile.. ick this'll be hard to fix

Should be fixed

DiosT, now you understand the true hassle of multiple styles. Took me a few shots to get the AA chart to work in both styles too.  :lol:

i dont really mind it, just had to do a find & replace in notepad :-P

was easier than i expected since i had a font size=-1 tag in every td cell, otherwise i'd have to do the insert by td entry, which just meant i'd have to go through and check the headings ;-)

but I'd rather support more people than just set 1 style and say like it or leave ;-D

some more things to add

Level 60 warder with DPoC is level 60, not 47 currently.  i will have to parse it out for the other things...when i get a DpoC

~D~

Nice chart, I love being able to see how the warders progress in a nice simple format that is easy to read.  Keep up the good work.

I've had my pet /shield me at 50% life twice now. Last time this happened was November 2003. And yes both times this happened I was at exactly 50% life. Anyone else have this happen?

I seem to get exactly 4600 HP for DPoC focused 64 pet. Also seems to regen approximately 275 HP/tick.

Enrage occurs at precisely 10% health.

Seems that DPoC focused 62 pet has 4475 as well.

Quote from: XalmatEnrage occurs at precisely 10% health.

Enrage occurs when the warder drops below 10%, but not if the pet dies before 'stoping' on a percentage between 0.001% and 10%

Close enuff. Lets just say Enrage occurs whenever the pet's HP drops between 1 HP and 10% HP  :P

hey, i am trying to have a little fun with magelo and giving my pet one...
could anyone possibly give me a rough estimate of stats/atk/ac?
any help would be greatly appreciated
:lol:  :D

"Level 60 warder with DPoC is level 60, not 47 currently. i will have to parse it out for the other things...when i get a DpoC "

Tried this the other night because some people were asking and level 60 summons up light blue to me using DPoC.

The level 30 pet can DW, but does so at a very low rate.  The 39 pet does triple more often, but still not frequently.    

Also you might want to mention that warders can use weapons of anytype without lowering their dmg.  That they will proc weapons once they are of sufficent level and that even weapons with a rec level won't effect a pet.  ie giving pet a weighty polearm still has him hitting high even at level 15.  Before 39 giving pet a 2h is a really big boost to it's dps.  Can be after too, but around 39 it get's harder and pet can dw, so really up to the player.  Also focused and unfocused pets alike don't care about weapon type.

Quote from: XalmatI seem to get exactly 4600 HP for DPoC focused 64 pet.

Quote from: XalmatSeems that DPoC focused 62 pet has 4475 as well.

Can anyone confirm that ? 125 hp difference when focused seems pretty low...

The 39 BST pet does not triple attack -- it rarely dual wields, and has the potential to quad.  If you give the pet 1 piercer and 1 hth weapon you can see that this is clearly the case.  The pet is level 31 -- and, as is the case with all pets, gains "automatic" dual wield at level 30.  

I haven't tested giving the 22/30 BST pets two weapons to test if they dual wield or not -- however a level 16 mage pet (pet is L17) will dual wield when given weapons (and only when given weapons), so I would assume a level 17 pet (of any class) would likely gain the same ability.  The automatic dual wield (without weapons) doesn't kick in until the pet is level 30, however.

It used to be that (before BSTs existed) no pet would dual wield without being given a weapon -- but eventually all pets, level 30 and higher, automatically dual-wielded without weapons.  To this day, mage pets retain the ability to dual wield when given weapons at pet-level 17+, but do not auto-dual-wield until they reach pet-level 30.  

This was relatively easy to figure out when mage pet level was random, unlike today.  Only the best pets of the L16 summons (L13 - L17) were able to dual-wield, whereas only the worst pets of the L20 summons (L16 - L20) did not.  The L39 mage pets similarly auto-dual-wielded only when the pet was "good" (the L39 spells summoned pets from L29 to L33, and the L29 ones did not dual-wield automatically, whereas the L34 spells summoned pets from L26 to L30, and the L30 ones were the only ones of that circle that auto-dual-wielded).[/i]

Quote"Level 60 warder with DPoC is level 60, not 47 currently. i will have to parse it out for the other things...when i get a DpoC "

Tried this the other night because some people were asking and level 60 summons up light blue to me using DPoC

Is this confirmed.  Chart still show's DPoC level 60 pet spell as summoned level 60.  I won't leave level 59 till I have this from N.Ro, if I get that large of a boost in my pet.

Just get the 62 pet, it'll be loads better than the 59 pet  :P

Is no 59 pet for bst hehe 58, 60, 62, 64, wish there was some pattern to when we get pets!!

level 60 pet still summons up low blue last I checked.  Level 62 is a huge upgrade, but if you are staying 60 the focus still works.  You get the regen and stuff last I knew, but pet isn't 60.  I'll quintuple check tonight when I log in, but unless I post back here it's still not making pet 60 and level 60 focused pet is still low blue hehe.

I've had my pet /shield me when he's on the far side of the mob from me.  I'm fighting the small mushrooms in FG which are really small so i'm pretty much right next to my pet while fighting, which could be the reason why he'll still shield me from the far side of the mob.

Level 60 pet is still low blue when summoned by a 65 bst using DPoC.

Quote from: TastianLevel 60 pet is still low blue when summoned by a 65 bst using DPoC.

I beleive its because focusing doesnt change the pets actually level....it just makes he buffed like a M1Abrams tank.  :lol:

"I beleive its because focusing doesnt change the pets actually level"

Actually focus'n does change pet level and the chart listed DPoC as putting the level 60 summon to 60th level.  Someone in thread asked specifically and I re-tested.  The level 60 pet with DPoC is still low blue to me, so likely 48th level.  *shrugs*

Ah...well thats great news then.
My bad, I was under the assumption that it only increased his stats and abilities. Didn't realize it increased warders actual level.

So in other words....

Sweet!

The Level 22 and 30 BST pets should be able to quad rarely -- but only when given 2 one-handed weapons.  The L39 pet automatically dual wields, so it doesn't need weapons to quad.

The L9 and L15 pets do not possess the dual wield skill, thus they cannot do more than a double, as is stated on the table.

Results are in from testing by myself. All results are with Spirit of Sorsha

Unfocused: 4200 HP, level 60 con
Summoner's Boon (DPoC): 4600 HP, level 61 con
Minion of Discord (Gemstone of Dark Flame, off Zun`Muram in Txevu I believe): 5775 HP, level 65 con, hits for 91

warder from lvl 70 spell - rashara - hits for

91 without focus and haste, 31 bash

94 without focus but with haste, 31 bash

99 with Minion of Eternity focus but without haste, 33 bash

102 with MoE focus and with haste, 33 bash


so far my findings

And is level 66.

68th pet with DPoC = pet lvl 63

Looks like all of this may be changed if the patch message is correct and they changed scaling with pet focus items.  I will test it tonight after I take my last final to see if theres any changes with my 70 pet + MoDarkness focus.

68 pet with ruby ring of embellishment (minion of eternity) hits for 95 bash 32 looks to be about 5800 hps(?)

any chance of getting the pet chart updated with more recent data, with/without different focus items, level 68/70 ? ( most still have ? ).
At least for me, I'm interested in standard pet & DPOC for the 68 & 70 pet, as I'll never see any of the better focus items. Sure other people would like to see other pet focus if its known. Level 68 shows a level 60 pet, really hope this is an error.

Last patch there was also a mention of changes to some pet focus, but have not seen anything specific.

I have just recently got the Ruby Ring of Embellishment, before that I was using the range item to switch in when summoning pets. I was just wondering if anyone else isn't getting the focus effect message when you cast? I haven't had a message since I got either of them and not entirely sure why, and i'm not sure if my pet is getting the focus. Any way I can check?

Check to see if you accidently turned focus effects off in your options setting, Filter.  Otherwise I dont know what to tell ya.

Nope its on, my cloak and old shoulders and mask still have the focus effect come up when I use them, not bothered if I don't get the message. More concerned if I don't have a pet focused, so are other people having focus effects work for their BL's?

My Ruby Ring hasnt shown a focus messege in a long time.  I do know it is focusing my pet since I ungraded my ring and I have to switch it in when I summon a pet.  I definately notice when I have not. =/

Kat

Level 60 spell, summon pet, with DPoC. Warder does ENRAGE. Chart at beginning did not indicate this, I know for a fact it does. I use it for pulling all the time.

Believe 68 pet was 62, but not sure.
68 pet has an unfocused regen of 150+(similar to 64 with DPoC) when not attacking/tanking.

Ive summoned him completely naked to check.. and he still regened at 6-7%/tick.

Been looking around for some updated Spirit of Rashara and focus charts. I recently acquired Qvic sandals (Ritual Summoning focus), upgrading my Minion of Darkness focus (Sphere of Swirling Flame).

To expand a bit on some Spirit of Rashara numbers poster earlier by Choppin, and my findings with my new focus:

91 without focus, without growl
94 without focus but with growl
100 with MoDarkness focus, with growl
102 with MoEternity focus, with growl
105 with Ritual Summoning Focus, with growl

I'd be interested to see the max hits on some of the upper level pet focii; especially Spire Servant =)

Ignore this table, theres a much more updated version here:

http://www.beastlords.org/forums/index.php?topic=5888.0 (http://www.beastlords.org/forums/index.php?topic=5888.0)

Spirit of Silverwing

Only Unparalleled Rk 2 and Spirit of Wolf were placed on pet.

Unfocused:
Dark blue to 78 / 148 max hit / 12,900 HP
9030 healed from 8% enrage on a non-proccing mob, healed to 78%.

Servant of Chaos focused:
White to 76 / 166 max hit / 14,880 HP
13395 healed from 10% enrage to 100%  18k critical.

lol

Quote from: hakaaba on June 22, 2006, 06:34:49 PM
Ignore this table, theres a much more updated version here:

http://www.beastlords.org/forums/index.php?topic=5888.0 (http://www.beastlords.org/forums/index.php?topic=5888.0)

Heyas. I was looking for some concise pet info for my new Necromancer, and I realized that there really wasn't any golden repository anywhere.

So I made one.

Please feel free to take a look at http://samanna.net/eq.general/pets.shtml and let me know what I got wrong, so I don't mislead others. Also, suggestions to improve it would be welcome.

Thanks!

Quote from: Samanna on December 31, 2007, 04:43:34 AM
So I made one.

Best line ever.

Thank you for not making the mistake of assuming (as so many do) that pet power numbers are actual percentages. They're really just indexes into a hidden table that can contain anything SOE wants.

Spirit of Flame and Spirit of Snow procs are MINUS 50 hate. This is what made them special. They're also the only early procs that were somewhat hard to obtain.

Spirit of Wind has a knockback, which is also unique among bst procs. There is no hate modifier.

I'm pretty sure all the other bst procs are +50 hate.

Spirit of Lairn is only 150 proc rate, not 200.

Recheck the spell data on Spirit of Jeswin. The only numbers that look right are the proc amounts.

Not sure which chart you got some of that info from, but it's not one I'd rely on. I know I've seen better ones, at least for pre-TSS stuff.

Also, you may want to add the Spirit of Leopard/Panther/Puma line. While it's a player buff as well as a pet buff, it's a pet buff first and cannot be used without one. Short term, but +20 damage modifiers aren't to be sneered at.

There's a third level of AA pet snare now.

Quote from: Nusa on December 31, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
Also, you may want to add the Spirit of Leopard/Panther/Puma line. While it's a player buff as well as a pet buff, it's a pet buff first and cannot be used without one. Short term, but +20 damage modifiers aren't to be sneered at.

There's a third level of AA pet snare now.

Growl of the Leopard/Panther/Puma. Spirit is the shammy proc buff

Thanks!

I made those changes; Jeswin was a copy/paste/forget_to_edit, not sure how I introduced the other errors.

I added Growl of the Beast/Leopard/Panther, can't find Puma.

Added Frothing Vengeance, too.

What's the name of the snare?

Hit refresh to reload new version.

Thanks much. :)

One nice potential addition - the levels at which pets start to dual weild.  Nice for those not power-levelling to know when to use high dmg 2-handers vs. one handers.  NFC what those are now for any of the classes :).

Frothing Vengeance doesn't exist in-game - it was one of those TSS giant spells that didn't go live.

You also might want to mention that, for now at least, Lockfang Jaws is identical to Steeltrap Jaws.

Hobble:
http://www.antonius-bayle.org/kumbaja/spells/beta/spell_view.php?id=3290
http://www.antonius-bayle.org/kumbaja/spells/beta/spell_view.php?id=8278
http://www.antonius-bayle.org/kumbaja/spells/beta/spell_view.php?id=12525
for the three tiers.

Thanks, will get those fixed.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spelllist.html?searchtext=growl+of+the+puma (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spelllist.html?searchtext=growl+of+the+puma)

level, pet haste+buffs spell line:
37, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2619&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2619&source=Live)
52, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=3690&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=3690&source=Live) (LoY quest spell)
59, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2628&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2628&source=Live) (can be found as a clicky)
63, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=3458&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=3458&source=Live)
68, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=5533&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=5533&source=Live) (despite the name, part of the haste line, not the growl line)
73 1-3, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10349&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10349&source=Live), http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10350&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10350&source=Live), http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10351&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10351&source=Live)
78 1-3, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14114&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14114&source=Live), http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14115&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14115&source=Live), http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14116&source=Live (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14116&source=Live)

Level 80 stun on Jeswin, and it gets the same 1-hit block it's predecessors do.

/bow

Thank you for making the compilation.

Spirit of Snow/Flame were highly desirable not just for the hate reducing proc, which in fact took some getting used to. Those were the first pet procs whose stun had no nuisance knockback and more than just minimal duration (for me at least - Spirit of Wind's stun was changed from 0.0 sec to 1 sec in December 2004 when I had already outleveled the spell). Adding the stun duration to the max level that can be stunned would be a worthwile addition to the chart imho. Enough of my ramblings, here is the data:

Spirit of Wind (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2725&source=Live) 1 sec
Spirit of the Storm (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2726&source=Live) 1.5 sec Hate +200 rather than the standard 50 noted at the moment in the chart
Spirit of Snow (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2891&source=Live) 2 sec
Spirit of Flame (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2889&source=Live) 2.5 sec
Spirit of Relic (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=3179&source=Live) 2.75 sec
Spirit of Irionu (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=6101&source=Live) 1.5 sec
Spirit of Oroshar (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=8784&source=Live) 1.5 sec
Spirit of Lairn (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=10355&source=Live) 1.5 sec
Spirit of Jeswin (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=14120&source=Live) 1.5 sec

One piece of information I would like to see included on your page: As Tulisin says in his excellent post on the mage board STA (from buffs or gear) is wasted since it does nothing for a pet's HP. I know there was a dev post about this a while ago confirming that it didn't do anything for HP even though the pet's stats actually went up but I cannot find it anymore.

http://samanna.net/eq.general/pets.shtml updated per above.

Thanks for all the detailed feedback!

Anyone know what level an unfocused Spirit of Silverwing pet is?

Approximately how many unfocused HP it has?

Level 72 I believe
12,500hp I believe.

Enhanced minion 1 is level 77 and 16,600 or around there.

HP tested by letting it enrage and using Replenish companion 5, and calculating the HP % healed and HP displayed on the heal message.

I think rashara is a level 64 with no focus, and Uluanes is a level 68 without focus.

Our pets focused with enhanced minion I is 77. I confirmed it with my lvl 77 cleric targetting my pet for temerity and conned white. Makes me wonder what our pets will be like with enhanced minion II. If they release that focus.

Enhanced Minion up to V is ingame currently. But i think all from III on are raid drops, III (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102538) is a tier 2 drop, IV (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102573) is a MMM drop, V (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=102638) is a Crystallos drop. Enhanced Minion V is reportedly bugged, at least our mages claim that their pets have the same damage and level as with Enhanced Minion IV.