Credit goes to The Magician's Tower (http://forum.magecompendium.com) for the original information posted here.
Ability: Suspend Minion
Cost: 5 AA points for Suspended Minion I (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3248&source=Live), 3 AA points for Suspended Minion II (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3249&source=Live)
Pre-req: Planes of Power expansion; Suspend Minion 1 requires Level 62, Suspend Minion 2 requires Level 64
Description: This ability allows you "Suspend" your pet, that is put him into a special hidden mode. The ability has two levels. Level 1, your pet will be suspended with its current HP only, any weapons or armor you have given him will be "forgotten". Level 2, your pet will be suspended with his current HP and all his currently equipped items and buffs. To Un-Suspend your pet simply cast Suspend Minion again.
Brief Q&A
What happens to my pet when I suspend it?
Think of it like this, your pet goes into a magical "pocket" you carry with you. When you have your pet in your pocket, you can do anything you normally would without a pet i.e. invis get CoH'd etc and not affect your suspended pet. The only restriction is you cannot cross zone lines with a suspended pet.
Can I become invisible while my pet is suspended, does this kill the pet?
Yes you may go invisible and not affect your pet, a suspended pet is not actually in the game world. Therefore it cannot be seen, attacked, targeted, the pet HP bar disappears etc. For gameplay purposes, essentially you do not have a pet, he cannot be affected by AE's or melee attacks nor can he defend you.
I had a cleric cast Ageo on my pet, if I suspend it will it still have Ageo once I unsuspend it?
With Suspend Minion Level 1 - the let will not have ageo. With Suspend Minion Level 2 - the pet will still have ageo
Can Suspend Minion replace Pet Hold? Does it clear its aggro list?
No, similar to the spell Summon Companion, you cannot suspend your pet if he is on an NPC Aggro list
When a pet is Suspended do NPCs keep beating on him and if so, does he "unsuspend"?
See the previous question
What is the cast time on Suspend Minion?
Cast time is 4 seconds. Spell Data from Lucy: Suspended Minion I (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3248&source=Live), Suspended Minion II (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3249&source=Live)
When you suspend a pet, can you summon another, thus having one pet up and one in quick reserve?
Yes, you may have one pet suspended, and then summon a new pet effectively "having one in reserve".
When I unsuspend a pet does it remember previous /pet hold or /pet guard commands?
An unsuspended pet does not remember any previous commands. It acts just like a newly summoned pet and is initially in Follow Mode.
Special Note: Summon up a Monster Summoning pet and then suspend it. Un-suspend it and it will have a new model, you may cycle through the pet models in each zone this way.
would a lesser succor make fluffy go away? if I send kitty to his room before succor goes off. Like in Sirens Grotto, get pet up buffed etc then lesser succor across zone.
Sweet ... not only do I get a pet .. but I also can make him into an " Action Figure " and put him in my pocket to play somewhere else lol
Borenu
57 Beastlord
Tallon Zek
PS thats right .. you noticed my level went up lol
Succor will make your suspended pet go away, it is like zoning. Anytime you see the "Loading Please Wait..." message, you are in fact zoning out and zoning back in whether a lessor succor or not.
Thanks for the post Xalmat. I have always been curious as to the exact workings of these 2 AA's. Great information!
TIP:
If your in zone and being ressed, make a pet and suspend it before the res. Ressing in the same zone will not kill your suspended pet.
Res effects and no mana, but a fully functional friend immediately :D
Silly question.... if I go LD with my Warder suspended is he gone?
Quote from: KinashSilly question.... if I go LD with my Warder suspended is he gone?
Yes.
Anytime you get the "Loading please wait" message, pet is gone. If you get TPed/Succored/Rezzed without that message, suspended pet will be available.
If you have this AA, make sure every invis caster (and especially BARDS) know you need 5 seconds between the "otm invis" and the actual landing of spells on you. Best, tell them NEVER INVIS ME, PLEASE. All old players know that, of course, but in pickup groups, you nowadays find level 65 players with less than a few hours played....
Another tip... if your warder has enraged you can refresh enrage by suspending warder and unsuspending him again.
-Raz
I am considering this AA now that I got a few of the essential AA's out of the way <MGB, Paragon, etc>.
My question is, Having Suspend Minion II can I keep suspending my warder as I move around? Ex: enter zone buff warder, suspend warder, invis and go to first camp, engage target when done re-suspend warder invis and go to next camp etc...
Thanks.
Yes.
That's probably the biggest use for this AA. The ability to invis and move through a zone and summon/suspend the pet as needed.
Thanks for the quick reply Mahes
Something else worth adding is that you can use suspend minion to avoid having your warder killed by Call of the Hero being cast on you. Great for things like Coirnav and the Rathe (Xegony too, since it works on intra-zone rezzing like someone else mentioned), or even LDoN adventures occasionally.
Damn, assumption is a mother..... :twisted:
I have been assuming that interzone rezzez and CoH would wipe my suspended pet, didn't even try it out.
TY ! :D
I have a question I did not see listed on top on the FAQ.
When you suspend your pet fully buffed, are the buff durations in effect while pet is suspended? Lets say I buffed pet and I suspendend him for 5 hours, would he still have the buffs?
Buffs do not tick while suspended.
Suspend Minion will also RESET your ENRAGE on pets 62+
Obviously Suspend Minion II is best, cause you dont have to redo buffs.
( Any time your Pet Enrages, your losing a valuable ability for quite a while until it resets naturally, think its somewhere around 1hr for that. Pop Suspend Minion back and forth and pow! Instant fix for Enrage used. )
Does anyone know off the top of their head if a level 2 suspended pet keeps items given it like weapons, muzzle etc?
[Doh I missed that above....]
Quote from: FelidaeDoes anyone know off the top of their head if a level 2 suspended pet keeps items given it like weapons, muzzle etc?
Top post says yes.
QuoteSpecial Note: Summon up a Monster Summoning pet and then suspend it. Un-suspend it and it will have a new model, you may cycle through the pet models in each zone this way.
Can you explain this? I don't get it. Can this be a way to shrink my pet better?
This doesn't work for Beastlords, it probably only works for Mages who get this Monster Summoning spell which gives them a pet based on the mobs in the zone they're in (not sure if any other class gets a similar spell, doubt it though). The original post was taken off of a Magician message board, I believe.
Game on,
I actually count this at L2 as one of the 'essential' AA's (up there with Paragon and MGB). It has so many uses you will kick yourself for not getting it sooner once you have it at L2.
If you do decide to buy it don't even bother just getting L1, just save up 8 AA's and max it in one foul swoop (L1 costs 5 AA, L2 costs 3 AA). SM1 is practically useless by comparison - you may as well just summon a new pet.
Main Uses
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1. Keep your pet through invis
Suspend the pet. Cast invis. Go to where you need. Unsuspend. Happy!
2. Keep a pet through CoTH/in-zone rez
Suspend the pet. Get rezzed/CoTH. Unsuspend. Joy!
3. Ha! You may have killed my pet but not his equally mean twin brother!
Cast a pet, buff it up. Suspend. Cast another pet, buff it up. If your pet dies unsuspend the first pet and you have a fresh mean fighting machine fully buffed and ready to rock.
4. Loooooong raaaaaiiddd gathering and bufffffsss.. zzzzzzz
To save on rebuffing your pet while you wait for your lazy ass guild to form up and get ready simply cast and buff him up then suspend him until your ready to roll out. Same applies to med and other long downtime periods. If you need to spend 15 mins medding suspend your pet first. Saves on mana and rebuffs very effectively in the long run.
5. Pet Pulling
Want to single pull that named from his guards? (but know you'll get the whole bunch if you pull with any spell).
Suspend your current pet. Cast an itty bitty pet that you know will be lightgreen to the mob your trying to pull as well as ALL the mobs around it (Note: I usually use my L49 pet or below). Give it shrew/sow|PoCalliav|Hobble, stand a fair way back, sic pet, back yourself away a long distance, /pet hold IMMEDIATELY after the pet aggroes the mob and then reel it in. Slow it. Kill the itty bitty pet and unsuspend your big pet.
6. Refresh enrage/shield
To refresh your pet's enrage and shield abilities (both of which have re-use timers) simply suspend then unsuspend the pet.
7. Help! I've shrunk my pet too small and now he can't climb steps and keeps getting stuck!
Suspend then unsuspend removes all illusions on the pet (this is also occasionally useful when an enchanter decides to be 'helpful' and NDT the pet without asking me first).
8. Raid leader calls for 'kill all pets!'
Here fluffy, come hide in pocket! Feels nice and sneaky... muhahaha... What? Pet? I see no pet! *looks innocent*
There may very well be other uses for this superb AA. Anyone know if suspend resets the hit counter on Calliav or a regular Rune?
Quotethis is also occasionally useful when an enchanter decides to be 'helpful' and NDT the pet without asking me first.
This drives me nutz...but not near as crazy as being grouped with a bard and he/she decides to cast Selos Song of Travel...twice. :x
Hiya
I have had SM2 for a couple of months and think it is great.
I never thought of using a lesser warder to pull like that post above. Excellent, I will try it. People are always amazed that a beastlord can tag and pull at all, let alone split mobs. Cool.
Anyway, my question has to do with the LDoN aug, Diamond Prism of Companionship?
As this requires the aug to be equipped at the time of summoning, (I have mine on a Spell Haste IV item), does it have to be equipped on unsuspending. There is no buff marker visible and it is like weapons, I guess, just assume it is there after unpocketing the beast.
Has anyone done any parsing to confirm that DPoC sticks. I was soloing the Vamp tower in TM today and, aside from the fact that nothing but sulfur dropped - NERF!!, the regen on the warder was creaping by at 2-3% per tick, instead of the 8% or so I am used to seeing.
Thanks
Koocoo Kachew 65 Torv Beastlady and her warder, Paul
Focus items only need to be equipped when you summon your warder. You can bag it until you need to summon again.
So to answer your question, you don't need to equip it when you unsuspend.
Anyone have any info on suspended pets now that SoE allows pets to zone with their companion? :lol:
Right now suspend minion works the same, but if you suspend a pet in one zone and try to zone with it still suspended then the pet will poof. Atm you have to unsuspend, zone, resuspend and go from there.
Which is extremely irritating since I forget or if i'm getting chased to the zoneline like when invis drops as i'm travelling ;)
But persistant minion will last through anything right? ZOning, camping, and all buffs, and toys?
as long as its "stored" the pet.
i tend to wait a few mins after suspending if I'm doing that before I log, so that I've got the guarantee that I'll have it out the next day.
Magelo isn't updated, but I finally got pet hold, and hobble. Would have had more if I could have participated in the 2X exp weekend but whatever :-o And gonna do the SM line next. Gonna save fetter till after pet flurries, and 2nd tier of pet crits finished. I read somwhere on here that some people have had problems with Suspending and loosing when camping, I think I also read that using banker really quick or something like that helps. That still an issue? Will take a while to save up 15AAs anyway, but just for knowing in the future.
I lost a suspended (raid buffed :( ) pet the other day. I had since camped a few times in the interim, but when I went to pull him out, nada. I've checked it since then and it worked, but I have no idea where v.1 got off to.
Found the thread I was thinking of...
http://www.beastlords.org/forums/index.php?topic=5662.0
I would say losing a pet is the exception, not the rule. As far as I know, it's never happened to me. Having suspend makes life so much easier imo.
DiD some Grinding last night and have 7 AAs saved, so one more for the straight shot to SM2... then gonna grab persistant next. Really just looking forward to not haveing to /mem warder everytime I log in. Also haveing a fully buffed and dressed Warder for backup no matter what is appealing.
Not to belittle the AA, but the poor man's way of suspending minion fully buffed when you have to log is to shroud up!
Shrouding allows pet to keep all weapons and buffs, whether you camp that toon for an hour a week, or a month.
This works for me, since, my beastlord is an alt.
That is a damn nice piece of advice. Wish I had known that months ago, good tip.
Quote from: pongu on April 04, 2006, 03:47:07 PM
Not to belittle the AA, but the poor man's way of suspending minion fully buffed when you have to log is to shroud up!
Shrouding allows pet to keep all weapons and buffs, whether you camp that toon for an hour a week, or a month.
This works for me, since, my beastlord is an alt.
This also works for cheap corpse summons in Guild Lobby, shroud to a level 1 monster and buy a cheap stone and summon your corpse with the cheap stone.
I've noticed a minor bug with using a suspended pet when getting an in-zone rez. It works like this : I summon and buff a pet, then suspend him...get a rez, and i can pull him out, just fine...but here's where it starts to get buggy. If I zone before I unsuspend him, he poofs (Yes, I DO have persistent Minion), and if I pull him out and then zone, I get a duplicate pet in suspension (meaning if i hit my suspend button again, i get a message saying i can't have more than 1 pet at a time). The extra suspended pet in that case always has whatever buffs I had on him BEFORE i was rezzed, even if I unsuspended him, buffed him more, and resuspended him, then unsuspended and zoned, and this goes for pet toys as well.
I suspend my pet but cannot bring it back. What do I use to bring it back?
the same thing u used to suspend it :)
A few things have changed recently.
1. Pets no longer poof when zoning. Goes for CotH and succor/evac. (changed a while back actually)
2. Pets no longer poof after camping.
3. Pet new commands have been added. greater hold, Qattack, regroup. Hold and Ghold both stay set when suspsended.
Some things about suspend minion/persistant minion are bugged too.
1. Rezzes seem to sometimes bug suspend minion. (I've never had this happen to me)
2. Camping with a pet suspended sometimes loses the pet. For some reason this happens. As far as I've seen it usually happens when I camp immediately after suspending a pet.
3. Sometimes a suspended pet can't be unsuspended. I haven't figured this one out yet but usually this results in losing the pet for good.
4. I've seen a new bug. Sometimes I can't suspend a pet even though I know I don't have a suspended pet getting a message that you can't have more than one pet at a time. Why this happens is not known cause I only use suspend minon to keep a buffed pet when I camp or get a rez. I've killed my pet and tried to unsuspend my pet and have nothing spawn.
Suspend minion/persistant minon has plenty of uses.
1. Suspending a pet prior to a rez keeps a fully ready pet for action for after the rez.
2. Having a pet in reserve. This really helps if a pet dies in a fight and you need that extra help.
3. I don't know how many zones or events still do a reset like Great Divide but suspend minion prevents the pet from poofing if it's suspended.
4. Certain buffs have long refresh timers and short buff timers like spire of the savagelord 2. Buff your pet prior to a fight then suspend then unsuspend when you need it.
Suspend minion/persistant minion has its limits too.
1. A suspended pet doesn't keep the pet if you die. You die it poofs even while suspended.
2. No, you can't unsuspend a pet when you have a pet or familiar up.
3. You can't suspend more than one pet. (this could be a cool AA for us)