The Beastlords' Den

And for the casual slacker, could SoE please note that Augment Type 8 is pretty useless if you cant do any raid mobs.... Think, LDoN ... decent (bought with points) augs with nowhere to put them.

I can do hours of LDoN's but I cant get items with Slot 8. (can I? )

1 group do-able ... hmm.

Well, with OoW you can get type 8 items with single groups. Especially the mpg single group trials are doable in bazaar gear, not all of them but some. I got my mask in one of the easiest ones for example.

If you mean augments, well, you can buy them at every LDoN merchant and enough type 7/8 or 4/8 items drop now in OoW.

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 14
DEX: +12 CHA: +12 WIS: +13 INT: +13 AGI: +12 HP: +130 MANA: +130
SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV POISON: +14
Recommended level of 68.
Focus: Minion of Darkness
WT: 0.9 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

Is nice how dose it compair with the ring out of GoD.  This boosted pet damage from 90 to 94.  So I know it is doing somthing for the Bear.

My Minion of Eternity pet hits for 95 max, so the RS item is pretty damn close

unfortunatly the best focus items are the boots from qvic, and they are raid items, but unless you have lvl 70 pet spell , (which i dont yet) max damage for pet with these is 97 with lvl 70 pet goes up to 107 per hit max damage not using epic 1.5 (dont have that either so dont know if it increases damage any more )

the item from ldon and others that are available for non raiding beasts are actually pretty good though imho

Qvic boots with level 70 pet and Growl max hits for 105 with me (same as the Eye of the Labrynth Dweller ring)

Quote from: seizelia on January 19, 2005, 11:32:34 PM
unfortunatly the best focus items are the boots from qvic, and they are raid items, but unless you have lvl 70 pet spell , (which i dont yet) max damage for pet with these is 97 with lvl 70 pet goes up to 107 per hit max damage not using epic 1.5 (dont have that either so dont know if it increases damage any more )

the item from ldon and others that are available for non raiding beasts are actually pretty good though imho

actually ritual summonin on the boots and rign form rcod is the 3rd best focus, above that is minion of discord and chaos

so heres my question what item or have any been found with the effect servant of chaos. just curious is all thx.

Level 70 pet summoned with Minion of discord focus was max hitting 119, critting 196 with Growl of the Panther

Any new focii from DoN yet ?

2.63 million pp and rising. Twinkage at its best.

Dont see it posted yet...
Just got the lvl 70 pet.  hits 94 with growl, without focus.  hits 95 with DPoC and Growl.  Hope to get my hands on Pyrique's belt soon.

nm found answer

New pet focus item, Drops off Volkara.  DoN progression raid.  I think tier 3, 42/54?..raid.

Summoner's Rune Belt

LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE 
Weight: 1.0 Size: SMALL
Slot: WAIST 
AC: +15 Dex: +16 Sta: +13 Cha: +12 Wis: +15 Int: +15 Fire Resist: +13 Cold Resist: +14 Magic Resist: +13 Poison Resist: +13 HP: +145 Mana: +150 
Focus Effect: Minion of Eternity
Classes: Beastlord Necromancer Magician 
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 8

(Edit: Just realized theres a Pet Chart topic, sorry to have posted this here.  Move it there mods/admins if need.  The Hp numbers arent exact, but regen %s were besides the Growl extra.  Mostly did it to show that MoD barely does anything for Sorsha besides HP buff it, and MoD nor SB give any regen to Allandu)

Tested MoDarkness for my own purposes today, dont see it here anywhere but anyone who wants to know....   I know its not completely accurate...

Summoner's Boon
Minion of Darkness
Unfocused

**Max Hit**
(Unbuffed pet with/without growl in Great Divide on Frost Giants)

Sorsha Findings:

Unfocused
77 max hit
80 max hit with GotB

SB Focus
79 max hit
82 max hit with GotB

MoD Focus
77 max hit
80 max hit with GotB

Allandu Findings:

Unfocused
86 max hit
89 max hit with GotB

SB Focus
87 max hit
90 max hit with GotB

MoD Focus
91 max hit
94 max hit with GotB

Why does MoD not increase Sorsha's dmg, even to SB lvl?

**Regen Rate**
Tested by using Growl of the Panther multiple times on every version of Pet.(obviously this screws regen numberical values, but NOT regen rate findings)
(Done in Guild Hall)

Sorsha findings:

Unfocused:
Drops to 73% with growl
3, 1, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 1, 3, 2, 2, 1, 2 regen rate after Growl of the Panther
*double speed regen rate  ie....  2 regens in a tic*

SB focus:
Drops to 75% with growl
4, 2, 4, 2, 5, 2, 4, 2 regen rate after Growl of the Panther
*double speed regen rate  ie.... 2 regens in a tic*

MoD focus:
Drops to 76% with growl
1, 3, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 1 ,3, 2, 2, 2  regen rate after Growl of the Panther
*double speed regen rate  ie... 2 regens in a tic*

Allandu findings:

Unfocused:
Drops to 78% with Growl
7, 7, 8, regen rate after Growl

SB Focus:
Drops to 78% with Growl
8, 8, 6(assume 7), regen rate after Growl

MoD Focus:
Drops to 79% with Growl
7, 8, 7, regen rate after Growl

Sorsha makes sense, except for the super regen rate on SB as compared to MoD
Allandu....   makes almost no sense.
Weird thing is..  Allandu Regens itself all at one time, 7%,   Tic,   7%
Sorsha will go like...  1%, 3%, 1% in the time of a tic.

Poses very odd questions..
Why is Allandu's unfocused regen so incredibly high?
Why is there no regen bonus at all seemingly for SB/MoD on Allandu?

**HP**
These %s also mean Allandu is not 6100 hp unbuffed as I believed, had been told, and couldnt confirm.

(Done in Guild Hall.  These could be off by 100hp or even 200hp given how EQ rounds)
73% puts Sorsha at 5550ish, or 4050 unbuffed
75% puts Sorsha/SB at 6000 or 4500 unbuffed
76% puts Sorsha/MoD at  6250 or 4750 unbuffed

78% puts Allandu at 6810ish, or 5310 unbuffed
78% puts Allandu/SB at 6810ish, or 5310 unbuffed
79% puts Allandu/MoD at  7142ish, or 5630 unbuffed


My numbers could be all misdone... this was done with a shiny trinket of speed auged with DPoC, the new DoN item with MoD focus, by a lvl 70 beastlord with epic 1.5 if it matters.

Conclusions:
MoD is a decent HP buff for Sorsha, NO Regen, NO max hit increase.
SB is very weak HP focus for Allandu
MoD/SB do not increase Allandu's regen

Well didnt want to search if this was already posted but:

Servant of Chaos off Tier 2 boots =

Max hit 108
Max hit with panther 120

Here's just another thing to throw into the mix: From everything I've ever read, you can't have two
spell's with same effect stack, will not necessarily overwrite, but you will only get the effect from
the higher spell effect. Notice that the 68 pet haste spell,"Growl of the Beast", has the same effect as the 2 new DoN Beastlord spells:
i.e Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by X%.
With this assumption, I'd think we'd only be getting, "at best", +10% for Leopard, and +15% increase from what we would see with just "Growl of the Beast" haste spell? checked Lucy Stacking page on both "Growl of the Beast", and "Growl pf the Panther" and stacking effect pages are not shown as having a stacking issue with each other. "Leopard and Panther corrrectly showing stacking issues". What am I missing?

Growl of the Beast:
2: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 5%

Growl of the Leopard:
1: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 15%

Growl pf the Panther:
1: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 20%


Using Dancolen's results with the 68 level pet:
( not looking at the increase of different focuses, but only on the effect of "Growl of the Beast" vs. no GotB:
Note also checked spell listing for "recommend level", none stated, so this should not be where it would not show full effect until level 70 pet).

86 max hit
89 max hit with GotB       89/86 = 3% increase, should be 5%?

SB Focus
87 max hit
90 max hit with GotB       90/87 = 3% increase, should be 5%?

MoD Focus
91 max hit
94 max hit with GotB       94/91  = 3% increase, should be 5%?

Why only +3%?

Using Fangolor results:
Max hit 108
Max hit with panther 120 

This only comes out to be 11% increase for panther?? Should be 20%,
or 15%  ( 20% minus 5% if stacking is issue with GotB)?
Note: doesn't say if either or both are  also with GotB.

Looking at just the 68 pet, appears wtih SB "DPoC" a 1% increase in max hit, and MoD a 4% ncrease in max hit, from the base unfocused pet; far from the advertised:  SB "DPoC" Pet Power Increase(15), and MoD Pet Power Increase(20)

Using Dpoc, on 68 pet, I can notice a modest increase in the base HP of pet, and regen still seems good, however Max hit increase makes very little sense... i.e. +1HP or +1% "rounded". ( I have actual parses for 68 pet HP at home, will try to remember to post these later tonight ).

Remember reading a thread somewhere by Tastian saying he's sent some parse results on our focus items to Dev's: Certainly hope something gets done here with our focus items SOON, they just don't appear to be working as advertised. Pet's and our Pet Focus items are to Beastlords, and major part of our DPS, and integral to our class. Appears there is either some unintended bug(s) in the way the focus items are currently working, and some issues with all 3 of the Growl line of spells.. "yeah I know there no such thing as an intentional bug".

Are the other 2 pet classes, Mages, & necros seeing the same issues with thier focus items, being that they have the same names for thier focus effects, if not on the same items? If they are might be an opportunity for all 3 pet classes to put some pressure on SOE, at the same time.

That's interesting and I'm not really sure what to make of it.  Perhaps our understanding of what a "damage modifier" does is incorrect.  I had always assumed it increased your max hit by x% as well.

As for the stacking....it will only take the highest % and apply it in that sense of "stacking."  In the sense of the spells themselves stacking, you're talking about spells overwriting each other or bouncing off each other.  If they were both the same slot for the dmg modifier, than in theory you could only use one spell because the other wouldn't stick.  If that makes sense.  Like Growl of the Panther would Overwrite Growl of the Beast when you cast it, effectively removing your pet's haste.  It's more or less two different definitions of stacking.

Back to the other issue...does anyone have a different definiton of what a damage modifier is?  I could see a small difference in what we think the max hit would be and what it actually is if the spells were basing themselves off an unfocused pet instead of whatever level of focus the pet is currently at, or maybe taking into account decimals, but that much of a difference doesn't make sense to me.

I think the difference probably has to do with the damage modifier only affecting the damage interval, and not the damage bonus.  Pet damage can be represented by the formula: DB + (DI * x), where DB=damage bonus, DI=Damage interval, and x=random number from 1 to 20.  So the DI could be increased by 5%, and due to rounding/truncation and the fact that a certain percentage of damage was unmodified (i.e., the DB), the impact on the overall formula would be less than 5%.

Ah, I didn't even think about the DB and DI, I just assumed it was off the max hit.  That would make a bit more sense as you explained it.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=6089

Comes off the OOW T2 Boots

Savagesoul Sandals of the Wilds   
Slot: FEET 
AC: +30 Str: +40 Dex: +30 Agi: +40 Fire Resist: +25 Disease Resist: +25 Cold Resist: +25 Magic Resist: +25 HP: +310 Mana: +290 
Classes: Beastlord 
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 8

Focus Effect: Servant of Chaos

Required Level: 70
Additional Modifiers:
Attack: +30 

Is there any chance of the OP editing this post to include all current ones?

I noticed at least 4 missing including 3 OOW and the DON one.

Vermilion Batfur Sash (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM  LORE ITEM  NO DROP 
Slot: WAIST 
AC: 27
DEX: +25  STA: +25  CHA: +20  WIS: +30 
INT: +30  HP: +460  MANA: +485  ENDUR: +485 
SV FIRE: +20  SV COLD: +20  SV MAGIC: +30  SV POISON: +25
Regeneration: +4
Mana regeneration: +4
Stun resist: +6%
Required level of 70.
Focus Effect: Spire Servant
WT:  1.2    Size: SMALL
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL


Drops from Redfang in Demi Plane

In response to the Growl issues, I did some limited parsing to see for myself what the effects of these spells were.  1 hour of parsing for each: Growl of Leopard showed a 7% dps increase for me and warder instead of the expected 15%, Growl of Panther showed a 12% increase instead of the expected 20%.  These numbers were for "me+warder", so I didn't separate out warder alone.  Still worth using under certain conditions, but PITA to recast every minute all the time.  Speaking of which, it's totally silly that extended enhancement effects do not boost the duration on the buff that hits us.  And changes our target to boot.  Yes i understand why, but it's stupid.

Has anyone done any parses for Rashara to see which focus effect is better?

Spire Servant is the best available pet focus effect. However, that could change if a new pet focus is introduced in PoR. As far as I know, one has not yet been found but I haven't been keeping close track on new items.

If anyone has the information readily available can we get a new stickied thread that lists all the pet focus data please.
ie
ITEM                                         FOCUS                                    LOCATION                                     DIFFICULTY

obviously item being the item
focus being MoD, RS, SS w/e
loaction as in zone, mob, event, vendor
difficulty, base this on the avg gamer.  not raider and not the guy who logs on 1 time a week.  rate it low to high risk

Ill start to do my own research, being at work is so boring LOL, this will give me something to do

Here is what i have so far, I will compile a consolidated list of items with these effects and link in a few.  I am putting that together now.  Please feel free to edit this as needed.  I just wanted a simple 1 stop looksie for what we have available.

Focus PPI    Min Lvl    Max Lvl[/b] Summoners Boon 15   59   70 Summoners Blessing 16   61   70 Minion of Darkness 20(10*)   59   75 Ritual Summoning 30(20*)   61   75 Minion of Discord 35(25*)   61   75 Servant of Chaos 40(30*)   66   75 Spire Servant 45(35*)   66   75 Servitor of Scale 45   71   75 – New TSS focus

---

*Denotes Pet Power increase on the lvl 73 Warder

FOCUS                                             ITEMS WITH THIS EFFECT
Summoners Boon                              http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=23480 = Diamond Prism of Companionship

Summoners Blessing                       Unknown, went live with TSS, so there will be new items with this effect, update as needed

Minion of Darkness                            http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=30392 = Gemmed Gloves of Guile
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17761 = Gloves of Dark Swarming
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=36665 = Orb of Swarming Darkness
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=37048 = Sphere of Swarming Darkness
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=33027 = Sphere of Swirling Flame

Ritual Summoning                             http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25076 = Cherished Companion Shard
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=46040 = Discordant Seal of Companions
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=32185 = Eye of the Labrynth Dweller
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28493 = Jennu's Sandal's of Creation
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28464 = Kizash's Savage Heart Sandals
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28528 = Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals

Minion of Discord                                http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=45881 = Bazu Seal of Companions
                                                         http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=30263 = Gemstone of Darkflame

Servant of Chaos                                http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=35350 = Blightbringer's Sandals of the Grave
                                                         http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=34984 = Glyphweilder's Slipper of the Summoner
                                                         http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=46013 = Lastblood of the Beastlord
                                                         http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=35340 = Savagesoul Sandals of the Wild

Spire Servant                                       http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=45611 = Vermilion Batfur Sash

Servitor of Scale                                  New pet focus, as of yet I do not think anyone has one at least not that has posted about it anywhere I can find

OK i have consolidated as much as I can will continue to look for more information.  Any follow up posts on the dificulty of obtaining these items is greatly appreciated.

Is there any way this can be stickied to the top or moved to a new thread and stickied?

Currently all of the Seals are not in game.  I am assuming they are having difficulty trying to figure out how to make a player crafted item from an all/all component and restrict it to pet classes only.

    Minion of Eternity    
1: Pet Power Increase(25)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)
   None    0   Self

last blood of the beastlord doesn't exist.

Quote from: Raukus on September 23, 2006, 12:54:55 PM
Ritual Summoning                      http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28493 = Jennu's Sandal's of Creation
                                                        http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28528 = Nolaen's Lifereaper Sandals

Minion of Discord                                http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=45881 = Bazu Seal of Companions

Servant of Chaos                                http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=35350 = Blightbringer's Sandals of the Grave
                                                         http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=46013 = Lastblood of the Beastlord

The seals do not, and will not exist.  They were removed from the game.  The other items listed above are not useable by Beastlords, so they probably should be edited out.

they added bsts to the VT gauntlets?

Ok tier 2 TSS legs have the Minion of eternity focus on them.  also 235 hp/mana 3% dot shield and 3% shielding.  Not bad legs if u need a pet focus.

Gah cant believe I left out MoE, /bonk.  Ill add that to the list and will drop the seals although I did put a shot in at the bottom saying they were not in game.  Having read all the posting on them I was getting the impression that the Bazu Seal specifically was not in due to a usability issue.  I will, however, keep all of the items that those focus are on in the list.  I will move them to an other class focii so if by chance a mage/necro wanders through here they will not feel like we are biased hehe. 
Information is Power

and thanx for pointing out my missed entries and submitting the corrections.  I will reformat this list so its more concise.

Just a stupid question probably

But I have friends with the "super" augs created by AAAA and certain drops,

They reported they are still able to make last bloods and others as of two nights ago... and they still exist in their armor..

Yet on here it says they are no longer in game?

Or am I mixing up an aug with another aug?

Last blood augments still exist. I even use one (soon to be two), myself. The thing they're talking about is Last Blood of the Beastlord (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=33343). Sony took this out because they never intended for Shadowknights, Shamans, or Enchanters to have a pet focus, or anyone else that could obtain a pet. Things like Last Blood of the Duelist (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=33348) still exist, though.

Hmmm I foolishly decided to buy TSS and start playing EQ1 again only to see that if you do not raid the best pet focus you can get is what 4 expansions old with minion of darkness? An augment which only adds 10% to the pet.... tell me this isn't true. Was i gullible into believing that the would actually start itemizing better? I dont expect to be seeing Spire servant on solo mobs, but i would expect a little bit of a bone to be thrown towards the none raiders...

In my honest opinion Ritual summoning at the bare minimum should be from a one groupable mob, and before people get uptight about that realise its what.. a 20% upgrade on the lvl 73 pet vs.... 45% for raiders?

Hoping I am not about to be disappointed in EQ again.
Grumsh

Minion of Darkness is the best you can expect solo (from a merchant, no less).

Ritual Summoning is obtainable by one group. To be fair, it's gotta be a raid-geared group of 70's with 5 members flagged for qvic, but it's one-groupable (with 75's it'll get easier). On my server there was even a guy who made a lot of money 5-boxing the msha's then gimping customers in to loot the drops.

knew someone who tried this.. until a customer challenged the charges and screwed him out of the abt 1 grand he was charging for the full set.

in real $$ or EQ pp?

real money =/

Man that's sad in so many ways

Quote from: Grumsh on September 28, 2006, 07:12:42 AM
Hmmm I foolishly decided to buy TSS and start playing EQ1 again only to see that if you do not raid the best pet focus you can get is what 4 expansions old with minion of darkness? An augment which only adds 10% to the pet.... tell me this isn't true. Was i gullible into believing that the would actually start itemizing better? I dont expect to be seeing Spire servant on solo mobs, but i would expect a little bit of a bone to be thrown towards the none raiders...

In my honest opinion Ritual summoning at the bare minimum should be from a one groupable mob, and before people get uptight about that realise its what.. a 20% upgrade on the lvl 73 pet vs.... 45% for raiders?

Hoping I am not about to be disappointed in EQ again.
Grumsh

Just for the record, Minion of Darkness is a 20% pet focus, not 10% and is easily single groupable at the 5 spawn camp in RSS where you can pick up a Sphere of Swirling Flame

The next pet focus up is Minion of Eternity and it's a raid drop, but not from a scary raid.  You don't need to be in an Uber guild for it.  It drops off Yxxta Primals, Ikkinz 3 bosses and Tier 4 DoN bosses.

Ritual Summoning is the next pet focus up at 30%, and you can get that with a group or two (depending on gear and levels) if you are Qvic Flagged.  The goats there drop the muramite pieces for the Qvic Armor, and the boots (Kizash's Savage Heart Sandals) have a ritual summoning focus.

Higher than that you're not gonna get if you're not raiding pretty serious content

Quote
Just for the record, Minion of Darkness is a 20% pet focus, not 10% and is easily single groupable at the 5 spawn camp in RSS where you can pick up a Sphere of Swirling Flame

Unless I am mistaken minion of darkness effectiveness reduces on pets over lvl 70 becoming a 10% pet focus on the 73 pet? and making Summoners boon/blessing worthless (believe it only works on pets up to lvl 70.. (Lucy is down right now so can't confirm, but I am pretty sure I am correct on these numbers.) MInion of Eternity is 15% (yes that means a raid drop is equal to a soloable drop 3 levels ago <useing the logic that you can pretty much solo a summoners boon augment>). Ritual summoning would buff a level 73 pet 20%. Minion of Discord 25%. Finally Servant of Chaos would buff your pet 30%.

So returning to my point, the developers have stated that yes raiders will always be better then none raiders (as well they darn well should be, I used to be a raider and busted my ass to be one and deserved the rewards), but the devlopers have stated the gap should be about 65% none-raider versus raiders. If I had the desire I would hunt down the post from the main EQ website. Although that is not really needed you can do the math yourself Looking at for example Depths of Darkhallow Raid loot was what .... 325ish hps/mana? One groupable stuff was 225ish hps/mana which would hover at the 65%ish percent range.

Now to pull this into relevance useing the figures I have provided, there should be a 1 groupable pet augment that is 65% as good as the best Raid gainable (is that even a real word ?? :D ). SO far we know for a fact TSS has at least a 45% pet augment from raid content, 65% of that would be 29.25%. They COULD be nice and round it up some to 30%... but all I am asking for is a bare minimum 20% augment i mean thats not asking for a lot thats 45% of the effectiveness of a raid drop item..... WELL under the 65% range.

So how about it Dev's will you step up to the plate here, or are beastlords AGAIN getting the short end of the stick... remember pets account for a GOOD portion of our DPS don't neglect them.

P.S. Tastian mind passing this on? I honestly feel like its an issue.

TSS Teir 2 legs have Minion of eternity on em.  NOT a raid drop and does not require any raid gear to get.. Just a decent grp In a NON RAID zone.  

Quote from: Epee on September 29, 2006, 05:21:14 AM
TSS Teir 2 legs have Minion of eternity on em.  NOT a raid drop and does not require any raid gear to get.. Just a decent grp In a NON RAID zone.  

Well thats a 15% pet upgrade at lvl 73... equal to a solo-able pet augment from (good lord has there been this many expansions TSS, POR, DODH, DON,OOW, GOD, LOY, LDON) Eight expansions ago....... I have to say... thats underwhelming.

Although TSS tier 2 armor is one groupable? MInd pointing me to a guide? id at least like 15% pet upgrade versus the 10% I will be having from you know 4 expansions ago.

In your arguments, you're lumping all raiders together, ignoring the fact that only a few guilds on each server are going to have those top-level focuses. Your typical raider is going to have the Ritual Summoning focus, never mind how many expansions old that is. Only exceptional raiders in anguish+ guilds have access to better. How many such guilds does your server have, and how many beastlord mains are in those? -- I suspect you'll have claws left over if you actually count them.  TSS might change the equation, but it's not been open long enough to know all the drops yet.

As for TSS guides, I've no clue if any are written yet. It's still early, and lots of info hasn't filtered out of guild websites or been written down. I'd keep my eye on allakhazam's.

Son of Severan camps in Direwind. You are lookinfg for An Ancient Legwrap pattern.  At least thats what I think its called.   Any of the mobs can drop the ASh covered hides, u need 4 for legs.  Only hard part is finding and/or attaining the flickering power source because it is no trade.  and ya Ritual Summoning is what I got hehe

Nice, Thanks! I'll look into that camp.

I got the Ancien Legwarp pattern 2 nite ago, didn't have time to search, but i find this info today:

http://www.goberserker.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4008

So we need to get Ash covered Hides to turn out the pattern.  You can add a focus, after the turn out in saying [Further] to Tenish.  The focus is named FLickering power source for Bst i fi understand and can be obtain in Valde or Ashengate zone.

I would like to see the finish product =D

adding some info: (powersource of different strenght)

A Faintly Glowing Powersource Misc
A Large Faintly Glowing Powersource Misc
A Large Softly Glowing Powersource Misc
A Softly Glowing Powersource

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemlist.html?searchtext=glowing+powersource

Quote from: Grumsh on September 29, 2006, 05:20:44 AM

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Just for the record, Minion of Darkness is a 20% pet focus, not 10% and is easily single groupable at the 5 spawn camp in RSS where you can pick up a Sphere of Swirling Flame

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Unless I am mistaken minion of darkness effectiveness reduces on pets over lvl 70 becoming a 10% pet focus on the 73 pet? and making Summoners boon/blessing worthless (believe it only works on pets up to lvl 70.. (Lucy is down right now so can't confirm, but I am pretty sure I am correct on these numbers.) MInion of Eternity is 15% (yes that means a raid drop is equal to a soloable drop 3 levels ago <useing the logic that you can pretty much solo a summoners boon augment>). Ritual summoning would buff a level 73 pet 20%. Minion of Discord 25%. Finally Servant of Chaos would buff your pet 30%.
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Just for the record, the varioius pet foci actually are good at their stated power level up to level 75.

Please take a look at (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=4407&source=Live)

Minion of Darkness
1:  Pet Power Increase(20)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)

Note that the 20% focus is good to level 75 and is still a 20% focus for our highest pet.

Minion of eternity is exactly the same (cf http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=4405&source=Live)

Minion of Eternity
1:  Pet Power Increase(25)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)

It's still a 25% focus even for our highest level pet

Ritual Summoning is exactly the same (cf http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=4410&source=Live)

Ritual Summoning
1:  Pet Power Increase(30)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)

So, no, the pet foci don't scale down as you go up.  A 30% focus is still a 30% focus even at level 75

wish they were a %, but they aren't.  I still don't think it's truly clear in what fashion the pet foci work, but meh, that's not where I'm going.

Boister's post is interesting.  What the different power sources means to me, is that if you combine a particular powersource with the items, you get a different effect into the item.

And what you wanna bet there are raid drops with the new 65+% (or whatever the focus will be) powersources.

Edit:
Or mebbe I can read the whole post for the info about the powersources ;p

I still think there's gonna be better powersources in raid events

Pet foci dont work as normal foci do. Basicly for every pet and every focus the devs have to create a separate database entry. Therefore every combination of pet spell and pet focus is actually a different pet, the number on the focus can best be explained as a database index rather than focus power.

Devs stated during beta that all existing focus will still work to 75, however they will focus one step lower than the normal focus for pets above level 70. There will be new foci in TSS of course which will focus for full power up to 75.

The one thing we do know for sure is that Summoners Boon and Summoner's Blessing don't work on our level 73 pet, which shouldn't be a problem for anyone who has it. All the higher focuses (for beastlords, anyway), have had their max level raised to 75. Remember that what's said during Beta is not necessarily what's implemented, but it's all a big lookup table between focus and pet level, so you really don't know without parsing. Bottom line, use the best available to you, and hope for something better to show up.

It was quite apparent during beta when they adjusted the foci down by just observing max regular hit. The same value is live now so we can suspect that they put live what they said during beta. However i do not see a problem there since all other foci degrade over 70 as well. They had to adjust the max level to 75 though since they wouldn't work at all otherwise.

Couldn't they have gotten the same effect by just making the SS focus more powerful? I dont see how they could possibly consider pet foci to be too powerful as-is, and now theyre just forcing every single beastlord in game to try for one probably rare raid drop from SS :/

Not every beastlord...just those in guilds capable of and actually raiding that high-end content. Which was always a small percentage of beastlords, and now that many high-end guilds are working on newer content, even fewer. Maybe I'll get one someday, but that's not where my guild is progression-wise.

I was looking over the new pet focus, and something interesting caught my eye:

Servitor of Scale (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=9618&source=Live)

Slot Description
1:  Pet Power Increase(45)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)
3:  Limit: Min Level(71)

Spire Servant (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=8399)

Slot Description
1:  Pet Power Increase(45)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)
3:  Limit: Min Level(66)


I see the same Pet Power Increase, but the minimum levels are different. According to Lucy, Servitor of Scale won't effect our Bestial Empathy pet, so wouldn't it be wiser to just stick with Spire Servant?

I haven't tested the new focus with BE, so I'm not sure about that.  However, remember that pet focus effects have dropped down a bit on the TSS pets.  There was a downshift in the return such that higher level focus now focuses for what lower level used to and lowest level focuses don't work anymore.

It is possible that BE won't be effected and if so that is even more reason to actually give us an upgrade to it at 75.  8P 

Will try to see what I can confirm.  *shrugs*

really hope you find that it does affect BE, else necros will be the only ones trying for this pet focus, since it will greatly reduce the effectiveness of the magi & bst single swarm pets.

I wouldn't go that far, although the point remains. The items the new focus comes on are high-end enough to be interesting, and there's no law that requires one to discard their old focus item unless it's in the same slot. I don't have to decide until one crosses my path, of course.

Sothgar drops a range item with the new focus, and hopefully the quested raid sleeves will have it as well (they do for nec/mag).

Dentrik's Dementia  Lucy's Entry   
LORE ITEM NO TRADE MAGIC ITEM 
Weight: 1.3 Size: MEDIUM
Slot: RANGE 
AC: +18 Str: +14 Dex: +14 Sta: +14 Wis: +14 Int: +14 Agi: +14 Fire Resist: +15 Cold Resist: +15 Magic Resist: +15 Poison Resist: +15 HP: +215 Mana: +215 
Classes: All Classes 
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 7
Required: Yes

Last updated: Mon Nov 6 11:14:55 2006

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Focus Effect: Minion of Eternity
1: Pet Power Increase(25)
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)



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Rarity: Common 

Level to Attain: 71 

Recommended Level: 75
Required Level: 71


This is an easy drop in Valdehom for those who don't have a focus!

Nice, but I still like the focus from the Qvic boots....

although I think I heard that old foci like that got nerfed with TSS when used on our 73 pet Spirit of Uluaness.  Can anyone confirm?

It isn't so much a nerf as all focus stepped down 2 levels.  Qvic boots will still give you a better pet than RSS focus.  They removed the 2 lower level focus effects post 70 so it may not seem as much as an increase, but in reality it is.

Theres something I've never understood about Pet focus effects.

Example:

Focus Effect: Minion of Eternity
1: Pet Power Increase(25) -----------what does this mean in reality?
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)


does that mean my pet will have 25 dmg increase when it hits? Also a long time ago I had heard/thought pet focus also gave increase in HPs to our warders, is that still true today or did they change that/take it out ect?

And does anyone have a new updated chart with all the focuses, how much dmg, hps ect increase  in pet stats or whatever available in a link?

'It make pet big and strong and allows for better mitigation.' Thats all I need to know.

Quote from: Mewzee
Theres something I've never understood about Pet focus effects.

Example:

Focus Effect: Minion of Eternity
1: Pet Power Increase(25) -----------what does this mean in reality?
2: Limit: Max Level(75)
3: Limit: Min Level(59)


does that mean my pet will have 25 dmg increase when it hits? Also a long time ago I had heard/thought pet focus also gave increase in HPs to our warders, is that still true today or did they change that/take it out ect?

And does anyone have a new updated chart with all the focuses, how much dmg, hps ect increase  in pet stats or whatever available in a link?

Everytime you get a new pet, the developers not only have to design the base pet but also a seperate pet for each and every focus effect in the game (reason why they made some stop working, was too much work). The 'Pet Power' just tells the game to summon the correct pet from the database. So it's not making your pet any stronger at all, just making sure you get the correct one.

And yes, the pet focuses do increase your pet's hp and the only pet chart i know of is the one in this forum.

Ah kk thanks. So its just code crap that doesn't mean anything except for the database to gimme my correct level pet due to focus.

And well good least i know to check how much hp my warder can get...will try to do a test with buffs ect.

Just picked up from bazaar

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM ATTUNEABLE
Slot: RANGE
AC: 9
DEX: +9 STA: +9 CHA: +9 AGI: +9 HP: +125 MANA: +125 ENDUR: +125
SV FIRE: +6 SV DISEASE: +6 SV COLD: +6 SV POISON: +6
Mana Regeneration: +3
Recommended level of 70. Required level of 65.
Focus: Minion of Eternity
WT: 1.1 Size: SMALL
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL except ELF HEF DWF HFL FRG
Slot 1, Type 7

Costed a fortune but my pet dmg is up to 86 and pet cons blue now, slight upgrade to for me in range slot :) (could i borrow some cash for kei tip please, thats how poor i am now)

You can also get
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM ATTUNEABLE
Slot: WAIST
AC: 15
DEX: +5 CHA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 AGI: +5 HP: +75 MANA: +75 ENDUR: +75
SV COLD: +4 SV MAGIC: +4 SV POISON: +4
Recommended level of 60. Required level of 55.
Focus: Minion of Darkness
WT: 0.6 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL except ELF HEF DWF HFL FRG
Slot 1, Type 7

Seen for 9k pet hit with 77 with that one at lvl 67.

Sweeper drops of Regrua Warcaller (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=24763)
Drowned man hair drops of Mina the Miserable (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=24562)

Brimstone Juggernaut in Ashengate drops a range item with 270hp and Ritual Summoning.

Handy if you dont have access to Qvic, or if you want to upgrade your Qvic boots to TBS ones but keep RS as your pet focus.

Or...

Orb of Stonecarving     
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: RANGE
AC: 8
STR: +16 DEX: +16 STA: +16 CHA: +16 WIS: +16 INT: +16 HP: +275 MANA: +275 ENDUR: +275
SV FIRE: +18 SV DISEASE: +18 SV MAGIC: +18 SV POISON: +18
Spell Shield: +3% Mana Regeneration: +6
Required level of 75.
Focus: Ritual Summoning
WT: 1.0 Size: SMALL
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL except ELF HEF DWF HFL FRG
Slot 1, Type 7

Drops off Stonecarver in Zsishar or whatever the zone is called. Gimp AC but otherwise ok.

These are values based on various posts of pet statistics with foci both mage and beastlord pets. They are approximate values of the % increase to pet hit points and damage and then averaged together. This is based of level 61-70 pets by the various foci. Hope it helps. I didn't bother with pets level increase by foci since it has changed and the way they affect 71+ pets.

     Focus             Hit points   Damage   Average
Summoner's Boon        4%          6%        5%
Minion of Darkness       8%          9%        8%
Minion of Eternity       12%         13%      12%
Ritual Summoning      15%         13%      14%
Minion of Discord        18%         16%      17%

a friend of mine has this item for focus as well

Vermilion Batfur Sash
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WAIST
AC: 27
DEX: +25 STA: +25 CHA: +20 WIS: +30 INT: +30 HP: +335 MANA: +335 ENDUR: +335
SV FIRE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +30 SV POISON: +25
Stun Resist: +6% Regeneration: +4 Mana Regeneration: +4
Required level of 70.
Focus: Spire Servant
WT: 1.2 Size: SMALL
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: ARMS
AC: 41
DEX: +20 STA: +30 CHA: +35 WIS: +30 AGI: +25 HP: +460 MANA: +440
SV FIRE: +25 SV COLD: +35 SV MAGIC: +35 SV POISON: +30
Combat Effects: +5 Stun Resist: +5% DoT Shielding: +3% Attack: +35
Required level of 75.
Focus: Servitor of Scale
WT: 4.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8 (General: Raid)

1:  Pet Power Increase(45)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)
3:  Limit: Min Level(71)

This is the TSS armor for us


Burning Heart of Sothgar
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: RANGE
AC: 50
DEX: +25 STA: +27 CHA: +35 WIS: +28 INT: +28 AGI: +25 HP: +420 MANA: +420
SV FIRE: +37 SV DISEASE: +28 SV MAGIC: +38 SV POISON: +32
Shielding: +2% Regeneration: +4 Mana Regeneration: +4
Required level of 75.
Focus: Servitor of Scale
WT: 1.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NEC MAG BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

1:  Pet Power Increase(45)
2:  Limit: Max Level(75)
3:  Limit: Min Level(71)

Could you edit in the name of the arms above, for reference purposes?

Question all, if you equip an item with "Focus Effect: Minion of Eternity" should I be seeing a focus message when I summon my pet?  I am not at this time (Level 68 pet Allandnu) seeing anything about the focus effect but empirically the pet seems tougher.

Anyone have any insight they can share?

It works, but doesn't give a message.

Excellent.  Thank you Inphared!

Are there any updated charts with the new focus items?

If you check the stacking info (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/stacking.html?id=4405&source=Live) (<-link) on lucy, there's a ton of focuses that go all the way up to "Pet Power Increase(90)"

There are the ones off the Void vender that are the ones that go up to 90%.

They start with Void B  (Group Progression) and are called ___ Dyadic Quartzite
Void B = Minor  = 45%
Void C = Lessor = 50%
Void D = Major  = 55%
Void E = Greater =60%
Void F = Glowing =65%
Void G = Raid only so is listed below.

The Raid ones come from doing Diffrent raids  and are called ____ Dyadic Quartz
    ** Note the " ite " was Dropped from the raid ones

Minor = 70%  = kill of Queen Malarian in Temple of Bertoxx OR BB Raid
Lessor = 75% =
Major = 80% =unlocked after either Pallorax the Soul Slayer or Venom Lord Ksathrax
Greater = 85% =after we Beat The Mindblight in discord Tower.
Void G =Glowing = 90% =Defeating Discord Tower(A.K.A. Citadel of the worldslayer)

Quote from: Mazame on May 05, 2009, 02:59:39 AMMajor = 80% =unlocked after either Pallorax the Soul Slayer or Venom Lord Ksathrax

That one is unlocked by completing FoS raids.

-Raz

Quote from: Razimir on August 06, 2009, 08:59:47 AM

Quote from: Mazame on May 05, 2009, 02:59:39 AMMajor = 80% =unlocked after either Pallorax the Soul Slayer or Venom Lord Ksathrax

That one is unlocked by completing FoS raids.

-Raz

I thought the 75% one is from FoS raids, and iirc, I got the 80% focus unlocked after crystalline tyranont event in korascian warrens..
I could be wrong tho.

Quote from: Zunar on August 06, 2009, 09:51:03 AM

Quote from: Razimir on August 06, 2009, 08:59:47 AM

Quote from: Mazame on May 05, 2009, 02:59:39 AMMajor = 80% =unlocked after either Pallorax the Soul Slayer or Venom Lord Ksathrax

That one is unlocked by completing FoS raids.
-Raz

I thought the 75% one is from FoS raids, and iirc, I got the 80% focus unlocked after crystalline tyranont event in korascian warrens..
I could be wrong tho.

You are right Zunar, forgot that Tyranont gave me the EM6 aug (I have an old head). Maybe Pallorax does too, not sure. :)

-Raz

better  list  here:

http://samanna.net/eq.general/pets.shtml

Ramelorm

Just nitpicking, but they are not % just a number to rank them in some way, don't mean much of anything really.

I think you get EM5 (the pet power increase 75 one) from defeating just one FOS raid.  My guild has only beaten Felbane but apparently a bunch of our pet owners have the EM5 aug now.  I keep missing those raids, so I can't swear to it myself.

Quote from: Sharrien on August 06, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
I think you get EM5 (the pet power increase 75 one) from defeating just one FOS raid.  My guild has only beaten Felbane but apparently a bunch of our pet owners have the EM5 aug now.  I keep missing those raids, so I can't swear to it myself.

Glad to hear CN is moving through some content >.<