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Everquest 1 => Hunting Grounds => Level 70 => Topic started by: Catgal on October 12, 2004, 09:56:16 AM

Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Catgal on October 12, 2004, 09:56:16 AM
Wondering why no one posts this zone.  :P

Experiences ranging from steady 4 percent aa per kill from ZI to Bind Hunter camp. And 5 percent from Bind Hunter camp. I can't group with newbies, like me, here. Or you will have a lot of CRs to do. IMO, this is a VERY cool zone.

RS, only dealt with ZI mobs. Steady 5 percent per kill. I don't know this much coz only been there once. I am thinking if you do deep MPG, RS ZI seems safer and easier. =) Just what I think.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Dakat on October 12, 2004, 01:26:18 PM
Camp your referring to is Blind hunter on our server.  

The exp is 5% anywhere in the place, aa wise.

The mobs here are not 1 beast doable though, least in a manner to get decent exp from.  But a great place if you are lucky to get a group.

I love WoS myself, in or out of group exp moves great.  With a group I was getting 5% per kill in the muckglider(sp) cave on the east side in first field. There are no named here, but the flying octipi die real quick and make for very fast aa grinding.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Oneiromancer on October 12, 2004, 04:28:12 PM
The reason why no one posted about MPG or RS is that these "Hunting" forums are mainly meant for the soloing Beastlord.  That's why there's no topics on, say, Uqua or LDoN.  :)

Game on,
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Grymlok on October 12, 2004, 07:45:13 PM
Bleh who would group in Uqua /shudder
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Oneiromancer on October 12, 2004, 09:12:19 PM
Okay, sure, went a bit too far on the exaggeration...

Game on,
Title: RE:
Post by: Quezic Grahl on October 13, 2004, 02:18:19 AM
I've found it pretty hard to get MPG groups really.  Mostly guild groups go there, so the few times I've gone was just a guild group that needed a slower for 6th person pretty much.  Mobs are tougher than WoS but overall MPG seemed kinda easier than WoS really since there wasn't much chance of adds and you can single pull alot of the mobs.

Haven't hunted in RS yet, just zoned in to look around a little.  Nice looking zone, but way too laggy for my cpu.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Dummkopf on October 13, 2004, 11:36:29 AM
RSS is a nice zone to xp but kinda deadly if you get multiples or lack a real slower or debuffer. Neat drops off one group named (and of course raid mobs) and nice xp so its a zone i would recommend to group in if you can get guild groups and youre geared good enough.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Shrouded on October 13, 2004, 10:05:35 PM
Personally, I have not found MPG to be that stellar of experience.  I can get much better experience in an elemental or WoS group because the mobs are easier.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: negrismorte on October 14, 2004, 01:26:35 AM
Quote from: ShroudedPersonally, I have not found MPG to be that stellar of experience.  I can get much better experience in an elemental or WoS group because the mobs are easier.

same
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Iskandar on October 14, 2004, 04:42:42 AM
In my experiences, the exp in the Dranik instances is better, per hour, than PG. The mobs there give a little less exp per kill, but they can be killed much faster than the guys in PG, with much less downtime between pulls so the net result after a period of play is better exp there.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: cudly on October 14, 2004, 05:59:50 AM
MPG is great for xp... had a crazy cleric that has endless mana(or so it seems) 2 rogues a bard myself and a pally tank and we were burning through at selos-'skin ripping from my face im running so fast'-speed.  we were averaging about 14-17 min aa.  My guess is this is about the maximum xp you could pull from this zone withought having non grouped folks helping with extra dps... or maybe like 4 necro a bard and a cleric tanking /shrug.. anyways this is definitely not a solo zone(unless you have a CR fetish)
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Grymlok on October 14, 2004, 07:58:51 AM
The problem a lot of people have it that they set up camps and pull.  IMO this zone is designed to be crawled through.  Camp for loot, crawl for xp.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Jaagger on October 30, 2004, 11:55:32 PM
Spent a long long time playing arorund in MPG, most nights I have a solide group of friends to grind with.

Me, Warrior, Monk, Enchanter and I bot the cleirc and Wizz for snares.

Typical ngiht of 4-5 hours we get arround 5AA's a night one every 30-50 minutes once we are settled in.

When we went to the DS instanced zones the other night we managed 3 AA's in the same amount of time.

RCD was about the same as DS instances for EXP but we did wpend alot of time killing placeholders/named invising and running to the next PH and named.

As for WoS AA's in this zone compared to the others jsut blow, I haven't tried the murkgliders in WoS as there is always a group there but field one and even field 2 compared to MPG jsut dont seem to bring the exp in.
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Tzuka on November 01, 2004, 05:22:41 AM
Quote from: JaaggerI haven't tried the murkgliders in WoS as there is always a group there

I have. They give about 5% per kill and are very soloable. But they run early and FAST, so unless you can snare, i recommend you forget about them.  :(
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: zumu on November 01, 2004, 08:53:02 PM
they also path on pulls like drunken bats. its really funny to pull one of these guys and have it stagger and lurch over to you... funny til it aggros several of its buddies along the way rofl )
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Oneiromancer on November 01, 2004, 09:24:38 PM
Quote from: Tzuka
Quote from: JaaggerI haven't tried the murkgliders in WoS as there is always a group there

I have. They give about 5% per kill and are very soloable. But they run early and FAST, so unless you can snare, i recommend you forget about them.  :(

I have done the Murkgliders cave a few times in groups, always with a snarer.  The experience was much faster than out in the "fields" because the pulls are simply nonstop.  In the caves on the Eastern wall, all of the pulls are single except for two in the farthest large cave, but they can be pacy pulled with a cleric or druid (or enchanter of course but then you don't care so much about multis).  Just by virtue of the mob density and quick repop rate the experience can be twice as fast as South of the Wall if there are multiple groups there...of course there are no nameds though so it's almost all about the experience.  There are some armor quest drops here too though, and we actually saw two Trean Flies drop on our last run through.  Although I think that was just pure luck, they can drop from any mob.

Game on,
Title: MPG and RS
Post by: Musogi on November 09, 2004, 06:30:42 AM
I solo the northeast murkglider cave all the time.  6-7% aa per kill.  No need to snare, just pull mobs out of the cave, they don't run far enough to ever catch an add.  You won't be killing fast enough to get more than maybe 5 of them down by yourself before repops to even bother crawling through the cave anyway.
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Dakat on December 22, 2004, 04:25:47 PM
MPG varies depending on camp location.  The further you go in the better the exp.  As with the mobs at Blind Hunter/Task camp and toward the zone out, mobs are on average level 69 and below. Most are blue to 70 except the named. Moving on to Odi or Enchanter, tactics, realm those are all level 70.  With a good tank 10K plus hp, further on is recommended. Having a high DPS group makes this place a breeding ground for AA. With a Pal tank, Cleric heal, Bst slow/buffs, a rogue, ranger and any other high dps class for last slot, we would do an AA every 30 to 45 min. Sometime longer depending on who needs a break.  After a while and being at all the camps, you will be able to colect some real nice armor upgrades. Such as any of the Mazerunner gear (mask, ring).

I found that you need a 12k + tank for RS. Mobs beyond the stairs are level 71+. I like here because mobs are fire types and our cold nukes land quite often. I was finding AA exp was around 6% per kill dending where you were, but Its almost impossible to get a pick-up group here. You need to bring a group or know from good friends to get a slot.

Whereas MPG, It's very easy to get a group. Sort of like how BOT used to be.
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: cettin on December 24, 2004, 07:28:37 AM
Just did Odi camp this afternoon was average about aa kill about 45 min nonstop killin with mnk,dru,cle,2 bst and rog very nice exp indeed too bad were able keep area odi and out in open clear.
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Vashin on May 11, 2005, 04:05:06 PM
From my experiences Riftseekers Sactum is the best exp zone in the game. (Never been to the Nest which i hear is very similar to RS)

Mobs there stand out cause of their major dps. Otherwise they have the same hp as other mobs in MPG for example and can go down quickly with the right group.

6% AA a kill btw.

Vashin of MT
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Klahw on May 13, 2005, 01:31:01 PM
Nest > RSS, I'm not sure what it is about the nest but if you can get a DoN mission in there the rewards are amazing.  I did one the other night with a tank (12kish), cleric, bard, 2 rogues and me.  I got almost 2 aa in the time we were there (less than an hour iirc) and around 61 crystals with a faction crystal.  Just can't beat that imo ... win win win.  Only trade off is not getting the Glowing and Greater MR but everything is a trade.  :-D
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Humlaine on June 19, 2005, 06:51:48 AM
I saw a lvl 70 bst solo RS for the fisrt time..it is doable but he was at 40m at the end of the fight....just a FYI it was sabrtooth
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Dakat on June 21, 2005, 06:55:27 AM
Sabertooth is the highest geared Bst on our server.  Having around 15khp+ buffed or more.  That's almost double the HP then most beasts.

This is his Magelo  = http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1199853
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Shirrkarn Ayge on June 21, 2005, 10:45:20 AM
Solo in RSS is doable as said, but it is imo one of the things you try just to see if you can. 14% AA per kill is nice, but the risks just aint worth it.
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Blarp on September 13, 2005, 04:24:26 PM
WoS caves(murk) are 6-7% at 70 solo they run at 20% your lvl 67 nuke/63nuke/65 choas if u are lucky to get it) will bring them down fast even without the 65 nuke they die fastanuf they doint run far at all.

now kick ass tip for soloing this cave.

u can Pull them outside this cave by the rocks by the named mob i forget name starts wiuth an s i think
NO field mobs or SH will never argo and they run back to cave or just out a lil bit i have never gottewn argo so let them run just melee them down thats 20% hp on mob u not getting hit
and HoT potions help this cae alo t if u dont got the best mana
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: Chickennuggets on January 24, 2006, 06:45:16 PM
Just a thought about the Nest exp... does is get the dungeon modifier?
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: voyage on April 26, 2006, 08:02:33 PM
MPG and RSS is soloable, chain pullable by beastlord's if they are very well geared in Anguish+ gear, both is extremely good Exp if you can handle it :) heh..
Title: Re: MPG and RS
Post by: sicshift on May 04, 2006, 03:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dakat on June 21, 2005, 06:55:27 AM
Sabertooth is the highest geared Bst on our server.  Having around 15khp+ buffed or more.  That's almost double the HP then most beasts.

This is his Magelo  = http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1199853



sheesh....thats fricken off the chain  :-o