Well after banging my head against a wall for a few hours trying to get this guy dead my friend Kenteck came along to help me. Im here to let my fellow beastlords know that this part of our epic is in fact trivial. The biggest obstical is having a rogue that is Air flaged or getting one piggied in. Here is the strat for pulling the pheonix to the zone in where you will proceed to slaughter this pain in the neck.
First off nothing is social to the Spiritfrenzied Pheonix, meaning nothing will assist him unless you wander into their aggro range without SoS up. To get to the Pheonix island, do past the Castellan of Air into the tunnel and head strait ahead past Baltaldor the Cursed ( i can confirm that he dosnt not assist or prox aggro during night time hours, but SoS works just as well). You will come to an island with Bees the tunnel upwards is to your left. Out of that one you come to an area with the Air elementals. Just keep heading strait and up the tunnel and then you finally come to the Pheonix area. Spiritfrenzied is off to your left. The spot where the rogue is to obtain aggro is on a little hill facing the Spiritfrenzied, with a pheonix (possible named) to for left and 2 blue phonix by a tree on your right. The SF will be very close to another but like i said nothing is social to this guy. You must watch out for pathers behind you, they will have a larger aggro radius then the Pheonixes. Have the rogue drop SoS throw something at the SF put up SoS and proceed to pull the SF to zone in. Tada, the pheonix is fairly easy to kill but is immune to snare. Congradulations you just did SF with very little effort.
I feel the pain of my fellow Beastlord bretheren who did this the hard way and take great pride in helping those who still have to do it :)
holy crap i wish i had this strat when i did it - took me hours of clearing with a couple buddies. gratz to you all for the shortcut - this was the hardest part of epic imo.
ROFL.. omg, i spent so bloody long on this part myself. This is too funny. Well, good to know for advising others in the future.
I've tried this a few times with a friend and he hasn't been able to get it solo. The first time it came solo, but as soon as he hit hide, the phoenix dropped its agro. the second and third time the other phoenix's agro'd.
I assure you that nothing else will agro unless you are too close to them, you need to watch out for a pathing spider too. He has a much larger aggro radius. As for pulling the SF, have the rogue throw a projectile and hit hide before it his SF, that will allow him to be hidden as well as aggro SF.
ah ha.. I think he was waiting til after it hit the phoenix to hit hide.
Just tried this strat out a couple times and both times the rogue ended up dying due to multiple mobs being aggroed. This was obviously fixed because th SF is now social to multiple mobs including named. Guess ill have to do ti the old fasioned way and get a couple groups together to fight there
Kolkan out for now.
70th level Feral Lord - Prexus
*sigh* I just ran a monk up there for nothing. SF is not social. Your rogue needs to be more aware of his surroundings, I pulled SF and the blue pheonix next to him did not aggro, i wiped aggro and pulled the blue pheonix, SF did not assist. I then proceeded to agro a couple of other pheonix's group together and they were assisting each other as normal. The pheonix do not have very large proximity aggro ranges. And you must watch out for the spider pather he has a much larfer proximity aggro area and the pheonixs will assist it.
I will get another Rogue to give it a try and see what happens. I had a feeling that he wasnt invising himself in time and had aggroed other things at the same time of aggroing the SF. I am hoping ... Thanks for rechecking the strat though... will give it a whack again tonight
Kolkan out for now.
70 level Feral Lord - Prexus
Kolkan send a tell to a rogue named Pearll on Prexus, tell him you are an acquaintance of Xaxony's and he might help you get your piece. I make no guarantees but he likes to help people. If you were on Fennin I would give you a hand myself with my rogue.
I sent a /bug report but no help yet, SF is on track but its not anywhere near phoenix isle =(, I thought maybe he was underneath the world, does anyone know if you gotta clear the isle for him to take another spawn's spot or something?
finally just got a group to go up there and he up there, just completely surrounded by mobs... just need to to pull away and work your way there but he IS there.
Kolkan out for now.
I 2boxed a rog and searched the isle for him, using hotkey for cycle nearest NPC and couldnt get him on target, havent yet been able to get a group to go up with me and clear it just in case, otherwise I think i'll have to wait for zone/server reset =(
Spamming your "closest NPC" button probably won't get you far, seeing as there are mobs all over that place.
Get your rogue to go back up there. As soon as you enter the phoenix island, follow the left wall. You should be able to see him once you're almost to the exit of the island. I think he was in between 2 blue phoenixes for me, and then there was another blue phoenix closer to the exit.
Quote from: Fightclubx on August 07, 2006, 09:09:09 PM
I sent a /bug report but no help yet, SF is on track but its not anywhere near phoenix isle =(, I thought maybe he was underneath the world, does anyone know if you gotta clear the isle for him to take another spawn's spot or something?
As we didn't do air that long ago, I can readily say that it is VERY easy to push things off the islands here.. and they dont really come back.
We only pushed 2 mobs off in the whole time we raided air..(about 7 raids) but it prevents you from doing that ring..... or epic.. for a while
However rings generally repop every 2hrs and reset themselves if memory served.. but doubt that would help you.
Try spawning/starting the phoenix ring and then finishing/not finishing it... to see if the SF will respawn for you when/if the ring respawns.
When I did mine we just cleared up to pheonix isle. Had to train one of the raid mobs on that first cross roads away while group ran by. Had about 8 people (needed gimp in since im not flagged for air). Was a really easy fight you have to clear like 3 of the pheonix's outta the way on the left side then shes an easy single pull iirc.
so the SP disappeared on the nameless for like 2 weeks, but he finally poped recently, and now.. tried rog pullin trick, some random adds are now assisting ><
anyway 2 rogues duo'd it up top with no buffs no heals except potions died easily, I trained up and looted and ate a death =D
Just did the rog pull on xegony on 9-9-6 worked like a charm. Had three of us waiting at the zone. Total ownage, no one even got hit dropped really really fast.
me and a friend were 2boxing rogues we both tried that pull I wonder why it didnt work for us =(
we got past several mobs no problem then some random mob assisted, and each time we tried was some different mob wasnt the same one.
/shrug glad it worked though =) that drop is such a pain in the ass otherwise.
Does this trick still work? My buddy and I started clearing PoAir to get to the SFP, but ended up gettin a million adds...aggro range is crap, the distance you need to travel is crap, and trying to get 5 people together just so you can gimp in is crap (nevermind trying to get people to help). So if I could just pay off some rogue to pull the mob to the front, that would be butter...just want to know if it still works...I heard they put a leash on him.
I did this fight the old facion way Killed to the mob, i boxed a cleric anda monk friend came with so we could get solo or 1-2 mobs a pull was not hard it just took time we killed the 1st so called raid mob at the xroads hes gimp with alot of hp fyi. i found this way easyer then trying all the "tricks" of getting him to ther zone in solo i have seen Bst's try this and give up after the time i had done it in was well passed. the bst still have one of the easyest epics ever. letsa not try to make it a cake walk mroe so then it is all rdy.
a problem, more & more nowadays tho, is getting poair flagged peeps to be able to get in. Especially for those bsts who are not poair flagged.
If you are able to drag the phoenix down to zi so that you can loot it, it is much simpler to get the people to join the group so you could go in to loot it than it would be to get the peeps to join the group, spend an hr or two killing through that annoying zone to just get to kill an annoyingly gimp mob that is entirely too far up to be worth normal efforts.
This is why this will prolly be a block for some newer people working on this epic.
i was wondering if the rogue pulling trick still works i was trying to get a guildy of mine to help today and she told me that rogue SoS dont work when they have aggro now, that it was changed with TSS.
I had a guildy try this for me a few weeks ago after I decided to finally finish 2. SoS worked all the way up and pull trick worked most of the way, but as some others have said it seemed random roamers would agro on Phoenix.
I actually just ended up taking a group there and we killed everything on route including all the ring nameds.
The strat still works as of 03/11/07
I am not flagged but got gimped in and group stayed at zone in. I told the rouge he could pull it by hitting it and then hiding. I never played a rouge before but he knew what he was about. He found it and was pulling it to zone in and lost argo. The second time he tried I watched him run back on the map and he stopped every so often for a second or two then we see him and the Spiritfrenzied Pheonix inbound. We beat in down I looted and then was asked if I needed anything else from that zone. The rouge said not to out run the Spiritfrenzied Pheonix.
How much does it hit for? Wanting to know if just me and a rogue could take it alone. I am unbuffed 9.8k.
its a gimp you should be fine just take a few heal pots iwth you and and brun it down, i could of soloed mine back at 70 cap should be cake to today standers.
SFP it is easy to kill, getting there is the hard part and rogue SoS dont work when they have aggro now (well thats what all the ones in my guild used as an excuse not to help). I had to use my brothers necro to get there and kill it and since im not EP flagged got some guildys to VF me in so i could run there on my 100k speed robobar and loot it.
I recently killed the SF with a friend (also a bst) and her boxed cleric. We had so much fun clearing our way up to the isle. Except for the amount of time it took to get there, it was really easy. She had 15k hp unbuffed and myself with 10k hp unbuffed. Dont' know about her cleric but we managed to get up to the SF in about 2 hours. We pulled the 2 phoenixes at the tunnel entrance then using her pet she pulled the SF into the tunnel. It went down in record time and I was a very happy bst heading to bed after the combines.
EDIT
I can confirm it is not social nor is anything social to it. and if you get to the isle it should be hanging out on the left right near another named phoenix (if it's up at the time). We used the clicky eye of zomm to find and target it since neither of us knew exactly where it was. She couldn't remember since it has been a while since she last killed it.
Quote from: Doucha on May 04, 2007, 06:49:15 PM
SFP it is easy to kill, getting there is the hard part and rogue SoS dont work when they have aggro now (well thats what all the ones in my guild used as an excuse not to help).
I will try and see if my rogue can pull him to clear up the question of if it can still be done or is he leashed or SoS not work for some reason. When i did mine forever ago it could be easily solo pulled by rogue SoS pulling.
Did this the long way since I didnt have a rogue handy. A good tank, cleric, ranger and sk to pull.. camped bst at zone in. The mobs hit surprisingly fast without slow and when you have multiple mobs, the hps drop awful fast. Sk feign pulled 2 to 3 mobs and cleared to the Spiritedfrenzied Phoenix. Mob was easy to take down. Respawn time in the zone is 30-45 min-ish. Good luck.
Was lucky enough to have a rogue for this - worked like a dream. He took a few minutes to pull the mob to zone in - once there mob died in less than 10 seconds.
I am stuck at this part!!! I'm not flagged and if anyone on the nameless could help me out I would be forvere in your debt!!
Hi
Well I finally nailed this sucker yesterday, I was lucky another to have a rog and a bard. The rog could single birdy up untill the elementals but for some reason couldnt get past them and died but bard tagged and bought him single to zone NP. the day before I helped a guildy and we cleared old style up to mob so the rog/bard way was much quicker.
Did it for a guildie a while ago.
Bst, Bst, Shm, Shm, Mag, Pal, Enc.
The shamans were taking turns tanking 2-3 at a time.
We cleared up to the phoenix island before any repops started, and a 3rd shaman joined us from the zone in about the time we got to phoenix island. No problems along the way, and the named at the first intersection died very fast.
They weren't weak mobs, but they didn't seem strong to anguish geared players. We handled up to 8 in camp at times.
Clearing seems faster to me than finding a rogue and waiting for him to pull. At worst I think we might have took 40minutes to get there, but there were no repops when the shaman came up, and we were clearing the second island, and moving to the 3rd.
Even went up to take pictures of Xegony, but our pally pulled her and sent half of us to our binds, as the other half gated.
It wasn't xegony that killed anyone, her first wave of adds came over and 10 mobs + a named + xegony + a prismatic guardian.
Whats the trick for getting into Air after they opened it per level? The drake says I have to have a reason to enter.
EDIT: Nevermind, pilot error
I had good luck last night: baltador the cursed was down, so I didn't have to monkey around with him if I made it that far...
I had bad luck last night: Every F*****ing castellan of air spawned 4 vengeful air spirits, while I was trying to three box.
For the record, a craptastic 70 enchanter that's just online for buffs? when you get a two pull on Castellan's(Immune to harmony)? I should probably have logged him out, instead of accidentally putting him in alt tab rotation. His death really crapped up the computer and the alt tab rotation for the BL + Druid
When he was going down, I tried to heal the beastlord on my druid, which turned into him getting aggro, and I couldn't wiggle the mobs apart, so even tabbing between targets, I couldn't tell which ones had aggro, because they've got no damn face, and when they're swinging slightly to the side, it looks about as close to facing you as when they're facing you and swinging. Plus, they took me from 11.5k mana to 0 in under thirty seconds, there should be a rule against that or something.
Anyway, after oaken guard, and healing myself as the druid for a little while, the bugger procced him down to zero mana, and I still couldn't see which ones were swinging at him, and I still had a full castellan of air to deal with, so I just let the druid die, and finished the nine mobs! (four vengefuls left, castellan, four more vengefuls) and zoned out with about 0 % health and 0% mana and 50% endurance. Actually I may not have finished the last of the vengeful air spirits.
I guess I need to get a rune proc'ing weapon both for AoE aggro, and to keep the proc from landing? Or since it's a mana drain, and not a DD, am I screwed?
Do I just have really bad luck with the RNG? Should I use the kobold rogue shroud, sneak, hide, and flop my way to the spiritfrenzied, and pull him back solo, and just pray to heavens that a level 70 kobold rogue can stand up to the 600 DPS beating he's going to take for having -no gear- being that he's a shroud, with an underspelled undergeared level 73 druid healing him? (Druid has Steeloak Skin, Ancient Chlorobon, Viridcoat, and karana's Renewal, that's all for spells post 63)
Do I sucker someone else into doing the same thing, and just solo the spiritfrenzied phoenix, popping all my toys? Is the stormrider island any easier than the castellan island? I've cleared the Castellan island before, duo, without enchanter buffs, while I was a lower level(73 compared to 76, with Druid at 70 compared to 73), it seems like bringing in the enchanter was just stupid of me. But when I did it at lower level, I cleared up to The cursed guy, and didn't know that I had to wait til night time to pull from around him, I saw him zooming at me, so I hightailed and zoned.
If you are simply using the chanter as a buff bot ... run the chanter the perimeter wall to the tunnel and train everything to zone, click out. Beast and druid casually run the now empty path to the tunnel, eliminating the need to kill any suits at all.
Good Idea! I let the account expire today though >< lol.
But I'm worried that I lack the ability to do so, since It's there accounts on one machine, and zoning freezes up the other windows, or lags them at least, to the point where I'm down to 5-20 FPS, and can only move at half speed at best, and autofollow just doesn't work at all, so I'ld have to run it twice.
Just to note, the shrouded 70 rogue does not have SOS, only hide & sneak.... and thus the rogue pulling method will only work with a real rogue.
Curses! Foiled again! And I would have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for you snoopy kids!
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