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Everquest 1 => Sony Beastlord Correspondent Information => Old Correspondent Information => Topic started by: Mewzee on May 12, 2007, 02:23:49 AM

Title: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Mewzee on May 12, 2007, 02:23:49 AM
If we want our class to be heard, then we need to become active in some way. I have been reading the Veterans Lounge on the EQ boards, and been reading here as well for a long while. I took advice from some beasts here in the forums months ago and that was if I had any ideas to share, to get on the EQ boards and to find names of Devs, and to PM them and send them my thoughts.

Well I took that advice and did that to Merloc a few months ago, I still have not heard any word at all from him about my thoughts, but at least I sent them and cannot say I didn't try.

Today I was reading the EQ forums, and I decided to send a few PMs, this time to more than just one person and I got an answer from a Enchanter Correspondent. And I am not sure if its really good news or not but its something at least.

From Unmei, Enchanter Correspondent:
"Wow. I never expected to see -this-.  I'll give it a once over and see if I can't get it into the hands of some of the devs. I make no promises, but hopefully I can at least get Nodyin to check it out, since he solicted AA feedback from all the correspondants a while ago, and if he didn't get anythnig from Beastlords, he'll prolly want to see your stuff."

I did this as a voice for my class (AKA the whole beast community), since I don't know who else out there is listening or trying to voice our ideas and opinions. I hope me sending some PMs providing posts from the Got Ideas section and Ferocity threads on how to improve old spells, maybe add new ones, add new abilities, giving ideas of how to give new utility to our class, doesn't offend anyone. I just want us to be heard and be given a response that is acceptable.

If anything I encourage any of you who can make the time to sit down for an hour and write a PM to any of the Devs or maybe a Correspondent even if they are of another class, so that we can get some type of a response from someone and to show that we are here wanting to provide information, opinions and feedback to the class that we love to play on EQ.


Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Bumkus on May 12, 2007, 03:47:21 AM
Wait, he asked someone who is not active?  Then went his merry way when he did not get an answer?  Is Nodyin aware that there is a beastlord class board on the eqforums?  This surprises me, because I've had good feeling about Nodyin.

Anyway, back on topic, I agree.  Time to make some noise.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Ganellon D'Alinor on May 12, 2007, 12:46:06 PM
I have been pm'ing the manager, the devs I usually talk to during beta from more than 2 months, never get a single answer about the CC.

Don't really know what to figure except maybe that devs listen more carefully to those that the see on betas - betas boards. Like : hell I remember this guy pm'ing me, we had a talk during beta on subject XXX

Will give my voice to get a real active CC for sure even if I think that it is useless. Must be realist, we had no news of tastian for nearly 6 months and not a single dev wake up wondering what happened, why beasts give no feedback at all etc, etc.

Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: jitathab on May 14, 2007, 08:20:31 AM
There is a thread on the eqforums about CC's and they dont seem to actually have any powers at all.

Tastian was a good CC in that he gelled opinions, did parses and cared about the class. A replacement CC who only skims the topics fro our board onto the CC really isnt going to get us very far, according to the other CC's who answered that thread.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Mewzee on May 23, 2007, 06:12:33 AM
Yea I was reading that thread, too bad it went into the wrong direction.

Also got some word once again about devs being told our current situation ect and to find us a Rep ect, lets see if anything comes of it or if they at least look into the issue.

Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Pindol on June 20, 2007, 03:27:48 AM
Guys and Gals...here is an idea:
We all make Swampfunk our guy and provide him with all the issues we are having and I bet he can make things happen. Yes, I know, he is a berserker CC, but I strongly believe he has a love for bsts and his respect and experience with devs is our best chance atm.

If you don't like that idea.....let's askTomorrow or other most active bsts here to step up and accept the role of a CC. Druids are somewhat fixed and don't need active CC anymore...It's time to make bsts a much needed class for raiding guilds.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Inphared on June 20, 2007, 04:02:16 AM
I am going to assume (I wouldn't know) that being a CC is more than just accepting the role. You have to take on the dedication of communicating with people, putting together all of the ideas that everyone in your class wants you to push, having the drive to do things that most won't (like defensive parsing), and probably many other things. That requires some serious time commitments that not everyone has.

As for making Swampfunk our CC; I like the guy and everything, but the title says it all: Class Correspondant. I would rather have a Beastlord in those shoes.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Pindol on June 20, 2007, 04:25:23 AM
Please read the news around the boards....Class Correspondent is the dying term. And FYI, Swampfunk has a beastlord toon named Gatorfunk.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Inphared on June 20, 2007, 06:27:05 AM
I read these boards almost three times daily. I know he has a Beastlord. And call me old fashioned, but I'd like the title to fit the player. His main is a Berserker, which is why he is/was (I don't really know or care) the CC for them.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Pindol on June 20, 2007, 08:27:41 AM
Hey..I am with you..would love to have our own CC, but months are going by and nothing happens in regards to this problem. My idea is just the alternative solution for the time being so we can get something nice in November. Devs are writing the codes as we speak right now. How much longer are we going to wait for someone from our community to take over Tastian's job?
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Rilelil on June 20, 2007, 09:38:20 AM
It's not just our comunity that is speaking out there are a few other classs without CC's and SoE is aware of it yet they haven't done anything. Either its a lack of caring by them or its just not getting done in a timely manner either way more need to PM and keep on Zatozia - Community Relations Manager who im guessing is the one that cordinates with the CC's from each class.

As far as Swampfunk being a Beastlord CC we could do worse, but honestly I would much rather see a Beastlord main step up who understands the core issues of the class and willing to put in the time and effort much like Tast did.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Discordant on June 20, 2007, 03:22:09 PM
I will quit this class before Swampfunk becomes our CC.  We don't need a berserker that has a beastlord alt as our CC. We need a main that plays alot to be our CC.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Grbage on June 20, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
I like Swamp but agree it needs to be someone who plays a bst as their main. But, it does look like the whole CC thing is going away. Several classes no longer have a CC. Also, some active CC's have said they are not getting much communication from the devs. They basically post on the CC boards and talk back and forth amongst themselves with little dev input.

It sounds more like the devs are communicating with certain active toons whom they trust. As in give them accurate, trustworthy parses.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Pindol on June 20, 2007, 05:20:24 PM
I have never suggested to make Swampfunk our official CC...........I have suggested to make Swampfunk our lobbyist since we have no representation at all atm. He has been doing this at certain level (asking devs about bsts spells during House of Commons Dev Chat etc.). Soe seems to be not interested in continuing to work with specific CCs as it did before. I am not sure if we are going to get one anytime soon. But, hey..it's just an open idea and no need to go on defensive with quiting class if something good might actually happen. Time goes by and we need stronger voice..thats my only wish.

Speaking about time going by.............atm on test servers, Triple attack is being made into an actual trained skill ( we might actually see warriors passing us on dps list....fun, fun, fun)
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Urim on June 20, 2007, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: PindolTriple attack is being made into an actual trained skill ( we might actually see warriors passing us on dps list....fun, fun, fun)

At the high end, that already happens.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Discordant on June 25, 2007, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Urim on June 20, 2007, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: PindolTriple attack is being made into an actual trained skill ( we might actually see warriors passing us on dps list....fun, fun, fun)

At the high end, that already happens.

Isn't that the truth.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: jitathab on June 26, 2007, 12:51:22 PM
To get questions asked/answered by a dev on HoC only requires 2 things.
1) a Question
2) To turn up early and ask the question.

Thats it!

I asked several questions on HOC about non bst iussues and got several answered, without every being to a HOC before and using a different handle. So if you got a burning question, turn up and ask it.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: Fornax on June 29, 2007, 11:09:22 AM
Any updates? I don't post much, but definitely read these boards. I have been posting on the SoE boards recently, but they seem largely ignored. Only a few people really post there anyway.

I have a lot of idea, some crazy, some stupid, but all to promote the beastlord class. Somehow.

We need more raid utility, group utilities are pretty much good, but in a raid, we current do a little more dps than a warrior, but are pretty much dead in the water without double attack or songs without our pet if it dies. Granted, promised mending is a big boon, but thats nothing compared to other what classes got.
Title: Re: Beastlords ROAR to the DEVS
Post by: recoil silverclaws on July 08, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
The tripple attack being turned into a skill adds nothing to the class's that had it allready all there doing is giving a number to back what was allready there. A war that dose 500 dps before the patch will still only do 500 after it, the change adds nothing.