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Started by Bheran, August 20, 2004, 09:26:14 PM

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Bheran

Was reading the Inny server board when someone posts a ink to the Pally board that goeas to a thread about OoW aa's. Seen here: http://p202.ezboard.com/fpaladinsofnorrathfrm22.showMessage?topicID=1372.topic

A few of them are whining about us being overpowered. But in the thread on the Inny board, the poster took the time to invite beastlords to go pleasure themselves.

Why the hell these people gotta be pointing at us all the time as being the poster child for class envy?
Bheran Feralblood & Dernit
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a_moss_snake_001

Oh its only natural that people overeact, beta has only recently started and the OoW lists will change before release.

One paladin simply pointed out our proposed "Roar of Thunder" is 1500dmg and a large stun up to L70. Paladins being "masters of the stun" its inevitable when other classes get any kind of stun paladins will look uneasy, however none of us know the re-use time or resist rates on this AA yet so its hard to say if will end up being useful or not.

No need to get upset.

BloodCelt

Use distraction,  mention either the Bard Fading memories AA  (To drive monks into a frenzy)  or that Druids are getting a rez spell  (to involk the wraith of the Trinity Staple, Clerics) and everyone will forget about hybrids whining about other hybrids.

BC
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Urim

From what i've heard it isnt a rez spell but more of a corpse summon thing, so it would drive the necros and sks mad.
Maelin Starpyre
[80 Arch Animist] Urim the Library Guardian (Iksar) <Crimson Tempest>

'Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity'

Xarilok

No, its a "rez" spell.  Cast it on a corpse, you get a yes/no box, click yes, you appear at your corpse.

1: You get NO exp
2: You can still get a exp-restoring rez

Basically, it will get the cleric/pally back to thier corpse in case they die, and not have to go get them.

Its not a cleic/pally type rez, you won't get exp.

Its not a corpse summon, your corpse stays in the same place.

Its a summon-to-corpse spell.
Venerable Xarilok Loungelizard - 62 Beastlord and Cat-Hater extrordinaire.

Eatbugs

"Generalist" classes (Bard, Druid, Beastlord - the ones that do many things pretty well but no one thing quite as well as the specialists) are always the whipping boys for class envy.  That's been true since a month after the game started.  (Heck, that was probably true in beta.)

Get used to it.  I played a Druid for the first couple of years of EQ, and the bitching was just as bad back then.  The only difference is that we're the most recent popular target.
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Valsuvious

Quote from: XarilokNo, its a "rez" spell.  Cast it on a corpse, you get a yes/no box, click yes, you appear at your corpse.

1: You get NO exp
2: You can still get a exp-restoring rez

Basically, it will get the cleric/pally back to thier corpse in case they die, and not have to go get them.

Its not a cleic/pally type rez, you won't get exp.

Its not a corpse summon, your corpse stays in the same place.

Its a summon-to-corpse spell.

It's better to just say it's a Body summon AA.  Either way, shaman and druids are going to love it.  I know I do :)

Liga

Consider it like a cross zone CoH for a naked person.

Strigori

that will piss off the mages though Liga....


Seriously, I dont see what clerics would bitch, all druids are getting is the lv14(?) cleric rez pretty much.  Looks more like a raid utility than anything else.
Wildcaller Strigori
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Xarilok

At least they didnt make it restore exp, that would be horrible.

Either it would have to be 90% or better, which would piss off pallies and clerics, or it would be 75% or less, which would screw them over just as much.  Lets say it was 75, and the cleric bites it, and is needed back asap, so what happens?? The cleric eats a low % rez, when given a bit more time, they could have had a 96 or 100.  Either way, if it had a exp restoration on it, it would have be horrible.  At least SoE had the foresight to make it non-exp restoring.
Venerable Xarilok Loungelizard - 62 Beastlord and Cat-Hater extrordinaire.

Grbage

Before visiting PoN, leave your IQ at the door. The board is being ruined by a very vocal and stupid minority.
Grbage Heep
85 Beast of Torv

Valsuvious

I look at the AA as another chance for another two classes to contribute in case of a near wipe.  It gives someone else besides paladins an ability to battle rez in case it's needed.  It also gives you a chance have your backup healer do something if the main healer dies.  I don't know how many times i was with a newbie cleric, trying to get them through Vxed/Tipt/Ikk trials only to have them die with their 5k hps buffed when something touches them.  This happened to my group once in Vxed and I had to main heal for over an hour in a half to get back down to the entrance with the person's body so that we could get the cleric rezzed.  Will save a lot of time I think and be very valuable.  Prob one of the first that I'm going to purchase.

Rhaynne

Honestly, I kinda agree with paladins on the AA they are complaining about us getting.

I don't think it makes much sense for us to have it either.

Choppin

paladins whining about us getting a stun is so laughable, it was never written anywhere that they are the stun masters, they just degenerated into that because the cleric spell lineup had many (for cleric mostly useless) stuns.

so while they have a whole ton of stuns, its such a bad thing that we get an AA that will probably cost 50 AA total + a ridiculous reuse time,


sorry I cant agree with any whiney paladin on this matter,

regards
Choppin Lethal
Feral Lord

Dummkopf

I agree with paladins only so far that this ability is pretty much useless for us (in a raid perspective) and could be pretty usefull for paladins. I dont agree that they should be the over all stun masters and nobody else should get a stun.