Epic 1.5 - Tastian

[Deiadrox]

rofl the effect working is a whole nother story.  like i said switchign targets isnt a big issue, but it makes a difference to me.  

Having the effect work is what's really on my mind.

[Qwawn]

Is there a reason why this can't be a full on replacement for Rellic (IE full Rellic type duration)?  Maybe I'm missing something but for pete's sake it *IS* off of an EXTREMELY high end weapon....

[Bananea]

Epic 1.5 is not extremely high end at all...

The dps increase from the proc alone over 1 minute is ~66 dps from what I have parsed. That's a nice upgrade...having this on pet all the time would be a bad idea imo.

[Bengali]

It can't be like Rellic because it procs so much, and the weapon isn't *that* high end, really, especially considering the difficulty in getting it.  Unless the players are naked, 3-4 groups of the right levels can complete the final fight.  It can be done with much less if you have really great gear, but a small family guild could do it no problems (they just might need 24 people where others would need 12).

Anyway, as to the proc rate:

[Mon Sep 27 01:52:28 2004] You begin casting Savage Wildcaller's Blessing.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:28 2004] Your Savage Lord's Totem begins to glow.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:29 2004] Bengali`s warder is filled with the savage wildcaller's blessing.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:33 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:33 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:34 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:34 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:37 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:37 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:39 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:39 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:43 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:43 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:44 2004] Jonarn begins to cast a spell. <Air Elemental Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:44 2004] A discordling taskfiend is stunned by a gust of air.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:45 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:45 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:49 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:49 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:51 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:51 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:52 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:52 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:53 2004] You tell your party, 'lol pet is insane'
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:54 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:54 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:55 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:55 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:57 2004] Jonarn begins to cast a spell. <Air Elemental Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:57 2004] A discordling taskfiend is stunned by a gust of air.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:57 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:57 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:58 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:52:58 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:00 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:00 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:01 2004] Bengali`s warder begins to cast a spell. <Savage Blessing Strike>
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:01 2004] A discordling taskfiend is shocked by savage poison.
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:04 2004] You have slain a discordling taskfiend!
[Mon Sep 27 01:53:04 2004] Your faction standing with Denizens of Discord got worse.

I left in the messages from the mage pet so you can get an idea of how much this procs more than a "normal" rate (yes, I know mage pets don't proc their innate abilities so much as they cast them every few seconds, but it's in the same ballpark).

There is no way this could last as long as Rellic does (48 mins).  It's supposed to be a "burst damage" proc for the pet.  3k in total damage every 10 mins is reasonable, particularly since we've lacked any burst damage for our pets for a while, but if it could proc like that all the time then it would be totally crazy.

[Eatbugs]

I'm looking at it as a damage disc for the pet - and it's quite nice for that.  If they fix the stacking issues, I'll be more than happy with it.

[Dummkopf]

About the targetting, pet mend doesnt target our pet as well and is a pet spell so it is possible to cast on your pet without targetting it. Would be nice if they could change the clicky to that too but imo its not as big an issue as the stacking problem.

[Hzark]

About the targetting, pet mend doesnt target our pet as well and is a pet spell so it is possible to cast on your pet without targetting it. Would be nice if they could change the clicky to that too but imo its not as big an issue as the stacking problem.

Hobble of Spirits does not retarget on pet either.

[Choppin]

This is probably a bit early to complan but humm, the epic 2.0 will have a similar buff but it will be 500 dmg proc instead of 250, yet with only a resist adjust of -10 instead of the -50 of  epic 1.5 proc imbue... (maybe a typo and -100 was intended ?)

Anyhow I also wonder if you keep epic 1.5 if you get epic 2.0, having 2 clicky would allow for a burst every 5 minutes. If you have to give up Epic 1.5 for Epic 2.0 I am curious if you could just get a new epic 1.5 by talking another cloak out of Muada =).

[Gourgeous George]

Having just got my Epic this morning at about 6.30am and not slept, I have yet to look at it or test. I had to jump in the shower and burn rubber to catch my train to work, which I still missed due to lack of parking hehe.

Personal story aside though I will be trying this baby out when I get home tonight. What I don't understand though about coding, is why can't they just alter it the same way we get more than one proc on our weapons with augs?

I mean even on same weapon, it has a type 4 and a type 8 aug slot. My 1st instinct is to stick 2 proc augs on epic and be proccing 2 things myself, so why can't they fix it simply by allowing pet the same luxury?

[Tastian]

It's completely different code.  One is an issue of weapon procs and the other is a spell relation issue.  Like I said code was already done and the multi-spell type procs are fixed for PCs and this will be fixed for pets most likely on the 13th as well.

[Gakania]

Btw rellic doesnt completely block the epic proc. they do stack on buffbar but whichever is more on top of buffbar will be used...

Well some use for that extra spell slot... now keeping cancel magic memmed all the time /shrug

[Fionnah]

I'd have no problem with this overwriting Rellic if it would make it easier for them.  Or course, making all pet procs overwrite each-other would make them all much more effective, since we could start using the procs as they were initially intended... as a way of adapting our warders to the situation instead of just sticking the highest level one on and letting it go at that.

[Grymlok]

No.  We shouldn't have to sacrifice or do some workaround to get our epic to work as it is intended to.

[Tastian]

Yeah the proc would lose a ton of worth and I'd hardly click the thing if it overwrote irionu and then had to spend mana to refresh after.  I was told the stacking should be fixed in the patch on the 13th, but last I knew it wasn't fixed on test yet, so I'm honestly not sure at this point.

[Wenian]

nothing in patch message hinted at fact it was fixed so doubt it was, well see in game though.