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Any point to Omakin's Alacrity now?

Started by Mindlet, January 08, 2004, 04:17:17 AM

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Mindlet

With Bond of the Wild having 60% haste and Omakins being only 5-10% faster is there any point to Omakins. Bond lasts 1 hour 12 mins and Omakins only 17.5. Thats a big chunk of mana to toss out to keep the pet hasted for what seems only a small benefit.

DiosT

Well, just looking at it quickly, yes Bond would save you downtime, but later on it wont stack with the Talisman line, so when you need HP it could be a downside

Tooflus Wunder

Once I hit 58 I switched out Omakin's because I got Talisman of Altuna.  I have actually noticed a difference in the performance of my warder since I switched as well.  The added AC and ATK that Omakin's offers really does make a difference.  Not to mention I believe Omakin's haste% scales up to 70% where BotW stays at 60% with no change.

Rippykin

Consulting with the great oracle of Lucy:

Bond of the Wild

Slot Description
1:  Increase Attack Speed by 60%
2:  Increase STR by 51 (L52) to 55 (L60)
3:  Increase AC by 13 (L52) to 15 (L60)
5:  Increase ATK by 25

Omakin's Alacrity

Slot Description
1:  Increase Attack Speed by 65% (L55) to 70% (L60)
2:  Increase STR by 60
3:  Increase AC by 30
5:  Increase ATK by 40

Omakin's is clearly an upgrade, but it's also a rather mana intensive (and tedious) upgrade from Bond of the Wild. If mana is an issue, if you find that for whatever reason it's easy to forget to rebuff haste, personal preference, then Bond of the Wild's duration and nice reminder buff is nice. But, it's also clear that Omakin's is a superior buff. Omakin's is also annoying as it has a 30 second recast time which means waiting that long to use if memorizing *or* just giving up a spell slot and keeping it mem'd.

I remember initially resisting switching over, but after a while you just get into the habit of refreshing haste... to the point where you start anticipating it dropping some times. :) Plus, it makes getting Arag's Celerity at L63 with a 45 min base duration a very happy event.

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Leberger

If i'm just grinding experience than I just use Bond of the wild, for anything major like some named mobs or for raids I switch over to Omakin's Alacrity.
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Sariss Bloodscale

I'm a little confused about folks mentioning stacking issues.  I use Bond of the Wild over Omakin's most of the time, and just click off the effect on me so I can cast Tnarg.  Haste stays up on my pet, once cast the two buffs aren't related.

janl

Ok.  First of all, the effect from BoTW IS Tnarg.  It has the same HP amount (150hp).  We get an upgrade of Altuna later on.  If you're referring to Altuna when you said Tnarg, you have to look at the fact you are wasting alot of mana.  Look at the mana cost of BoTW.  It has a fairly steep mana cost because A) the duration of the spell and B) because you're getting 2 spells for 1.

Now if you were to cast BoTW and then click off the recourse effect, and then buff yourself with Altuna, you might as well have simply used Omakin's to start with.  The mana cost would probably come out to be not alot more (sorry, it's early and I don't feel like getting out a calculator).
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Menarion

Bond of the Wild 450 mana lasts 1hour 12 min
Talisman of Altuna 250 mana lasts 1hour 12 min

Total of 700 mana in 1 hour and 12 min plus only having to cast twice

Omakin's Alacrity 250 mana lasts 17.5 min
Have to cast 4 times in that 1hour 12 min  the 5th cast would be 2 minutes before Bond of the Wild wears off so I won't count that.

1000 mana just for Omakin's and add in 250 for Altuna and the mana cost is definitely a lot more.

You would then have to look at a damage parse to decide if that extra mana coupled with the damage output is worth it for you personally.
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