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pet vs pc aggro

Started by Keba, December 21, 2006, 08:29:45 AM

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Vidyne

Pet attacking a mob puts you on hate list with a big whopping 1 hate.
In his first swing the pet will do 50x - X hate more than that.
Pet will hold a mob to a spot however for groups so it won't go after casters.
This can allow a tank to not have to aggro as much but still keep it away from casters via the pet whos really holding the mob down.
With what is being considered in this thread.

Your pets would be dying on raid encounters and in group encounters and we'd just lose them for dps.
During the first few seconds of a raid encounter, the pet would hit #1 on the aggro list and those nice 3-4k+ hitting raid things would go..  OOO  SQUISHIE!
and splat the pet goes... and then the tank gets aggro back.

Grbage

Quote from: Vidyne on December 24, 2006, 02:53:29 PM
Pet attacking a mob puts you on hate list with a big whopping 1 hate.
In his first swing the pet will do 50x - X hate more than that.
Pet will hold a mob to a spot however for groups so it won't go after casters.
This can allow a tank to not have to aggro as much but still keep it away from casters via the pet whos really holding the mob down.
With what is being considered in this thread.

Your pets would be dying on raid encounters and in group encounters and we'd just lose them for dps.
During the first few seconds of a raid encounter, the pet would hit #1 on the aggro list and those nice 3-4k+ hitting raid things would go..  OOO  SQUISHIE!
and splat the pet goes... and then the tank gets aggro back.

Simply turning off pet taunt should keep them from going "squishie" during a raid due to out agroing the tank. Some of that mad agro pets have come from constantly spamming taunt, putting them above everyone else +1. Something you will never find a taunting class doing during raids. Where most tanks don't spam taunt because:
-It wont do a darn thing for you if you are already at top of the hate list.
-That way the ability is actually ready to use when someone ganks agro.

That said, I still don't think they will ever change the coding back to the point where pets can out agro PC's. The outcry from the community in general and tanks specifically would be huge. Personally, I don't believe it would be good for the game.
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Spiritclaw

Remember, each damage proc we have with 2 execptions add +50 to hate.  So every time he does DD, he is also adding that hate to himself.  Even without taunt on, he is getting huge amounts of hate
Spiritclaw Sadiablo
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Rarrum

QuoteYour pets would be dying on raid encounters

When do they not? ;p  Pet is currently near-unusable in many places as it is.  For example in Razorthorne, a single ae dot thing from an evil-eye can kill it, even if you try to hide it safely in a corner just to use as a growl battery.

Timberghost

Quote from: Spiritclaw on December 21, 2006, 08:44:01 PM
I hope that if they do decide to implement it, instead of +50 to hate for every proc that lands, they add -200 hate.  If I recall correctly, ever pet proc we have adds +50 to pets hate.  Makes it easy for pets to get to top of hate list really really fast.

Nope there's a couple of quested pet procs that actually drop hate.  Check out spirit of the snow for an example.