spells linked together

[phatman]

Again we recieve the short end of the stick. Our spells like our DD poison and ice and our fero spells have now been linked together greatly reducing our viability on raids... Why has this been done to us? AS it was we were able to fero an average of 4 to 6 players with in a 4 minute period before an event started,now we can only do 2 to 3 players and recieve the brunt of players who seem not to understand why we are no longer able to give fero as often as we would like as well as having a redicously long recast timer... :cry:

[Inphared]

1) Fero sucks.

2) We didn't take that big of a hit. Go talk to a Shadowknight about their problems when Prathun changed this, then complain.

3) Fero sucks.

4) This happened ages ago. Where were you?

5) Fero sucks.

[Khauruk]

Fero sucks, except for gimp-asses like me who can only buff to about 2.5k attack w/ it on.

Revamp fero plskkthx Rytan!  It shouldn't be useful only for somebody who hasn't played regularly since PoR launch.

[Icekracker]

fero sucks, enough said. on the bright side, we dont have to worry about those damn rogues anymore.

however, i did like having both posion nukes up. ah well, we could have had alot worse done to us. *knocks on wood*

[Obsessedwith]

fero sucks, for anyone with 3k attack that is........you guys do realize not all of us are that geared right?  Fero is actually noticeable when your sub 3k as is most mid tier raiders but never mind us it sucks right?  Anyway linking spells that have never been linked in the history of the class is retarded to say the least.  Talk to SK's?  okay, i will, and i will see that they complained a lot more than we did and got their stuff changed back.  The attitude of "oh well it could have been worse" is what is killing the class and in some aspects the game.  If you like your class and the game you should fight every negative, non-logical move made, but oh ya i forgot fero sucks so lets us be blindly nerfed.

:mrgreen:

[Icekracker]

In terms of a cost benefit analysis, yes, fero does suck. The 1k base mana cost of that spell would put a hinderance on any raider that doesn't do high end, especially if they were to have a fero rot cycling 2 or 3 different types of fero for 8-9 characters.

+70 stamina is useless for even mid-tier raiders, while the +250 atk and resists may be the the only saving grace there, but again, the cost for it to be effective as a utility for an entire raid diminishes.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure there was not any immense feedback from our community to link those spells together. Hence why it could have been worse. Now that its been changed, we can push for some corrections in regards to it, either in the beta from the next expansion or thru other various means which you can also participate in.   :mrgreen:

[Inphared]

Anyway linking spells that have never been linked in the history of the class is retarded to say the least.

You're right, those poison nukes have had such a history that linking them was a total blind move and shouldn't have been done for any reason at all.

The attitude of "oh well it could have been worse" is what is killing the class and in some aspects the game.  If you like your class and the game you should fight every negative, non-logical move made, but oh ya i forgot fero sucks so lets us be blindly nerfed.

I've been fighting tooth and nail to get Prathun to man up to even type a reply to a private message. Unless you have a better suggestion short of starting a "my class is broken" thread on the EQLive boards, don't come in here acting like you're the supreme advocate for the class.

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[Denti]

Well, i can, somewhat reluctantly, understand the linking of the poison nukes (although i certainly don't like it). I really do not care about linked fero, actually, i might lilke it a tad since it is a good excuse not to cast it on those paladins, monks, rogues, zerkers and wizards(!) asking for it.

What i really cannot understand is the linking of our cold nukes. That is something that shouldn't have happened at all and i see no real justification to it.

By the way, did rangers receive any linking of their nukes? They can throw out the highest number of nukes per minute of all classes as far as i know making them real usefull if you add MR to the plot.

[Gohmur]

Yes, Rangers spells were linked similar to ours.

[Khauruk]

I don't know about just recently, but ranger nukes have always been linked up.  Perhaps they received another link for their more recently added line (don't recall name, but iirc received it in PoR), but until now we've been able to toss out many more nukes than a ranger.

[Jebasiz]

It had to do with something about getting a 25% upgrade for you nuke in SoF and not a 125% nuke upgrade.  I tried to argue it's necessity but with my limited knowledge of beastlords(and even more limited knowledge of rangers(besides track and shoot stuff, what do these people do?), I lost. 

I brought up peerless penchant for you all, again..last week, but couldn't suggest anything viable on your behalf(a melee proc or crit mod buff didn't fly).

[Hzath]

I don't think we want anything in exchange for peerless penchant.  Just take away the recourse and give us the group haste as a separate spell.

[Icekracker]

/wave Jebasiz :)

With the linking of those spells, I've heard of a loss of about 100 DPS (I haven't parsed it out myself though). Is having our nukes linked that "overpowering" in reality? Like Denti said, I can possibly see the linking of our posion nuke, but no the Ice nukes.

Also, there has been a little bit of discussion on peerless. If you want to read up on some thoughts about it, the link is:

http://forums.beastlords.org/index.php/topic,7787.msg82966.html#msg82966

[Grbage]

/wave Jebasiz :)

With the linking of those spells, I've heard of a loss of about 100 DPS (I haven't parsed it out myself though). Is having our nukes linked that "overpowering" in reality? Like Denti said, I can possibly see the linking of our posion nuke, but no the Ice nukes.

Also, there has been a little bit of discussion on peerless. If you want to read up on some thoughts about it, the link is:

http://forums.beastlords.org/index.php/topic,7787.msg82966.html#msg82966

There was a huge discussion about peerless on the beta boards that fell on deaf ears. Don't expect to much from Prat...

[Denti]

On pure burn fights me and the other beastlords in my guild see a drop in our dps by around 1k dps (down from around 5k). That is not only because of lower nuke dps, but lower nuke dps means lower MR dps as well and in a dps group that makes quite a lot of a difference. We all used to chain around 6 nukes, now that is only 3 plus the odd dot although the cast time on those is too long to make them viable.

On longer fights we are not much lower to be honest since we have to manage mana anyway and cant go full burn, most just use one or two nukes and Howl at the Moon.