Burn dps in raids

[Karve]

6) Puma(  aka new ones lol)

Why waste mana on new ones :)

[Blarp]

i ment or know ones lol dont know the lvl 81+ spells yet.  i had the mana to use so i liked haveing the more hit points.  as i  tended to pull argo off the tank alot it was nice to see that   little bit more hp hehe.

[Orbus1]

Raid line up for me is:

Slow
Poison Nuke
Ice DD
Ice DD
DoT(Ikaav)
Yowl
Fero/Puma - depends on who is in the rqaid since only certain people ask for fero
Heal
SE
Last slot depends on the raid..SV(pallys are scarce it seems) or second DoT are the most common two

10) pet heal.

Blarp..Do you use this on raids a lot? I would think with the aa heals for pets and the pet benefiting from group heals he would stay up. Pet Heal just casts too slow for raids I would think. I keep it up in group/solo all the time though.

[Nusa]

He was probably referring to the promised line of pet heals. Heal takes a bit to land, but only 0.25 sec to cast.

[Denti]

Raid setup for me is

1) disease dot 1
2) promised pet heal
3) yowl
4) poison nuke
5) ice nuke 1
6) ice nuke 2
7) poison dot 1
8) pet block (i tend to switch between spellbreakers and bulwark of tri'quaras, that used to be the spot for growl)
9) poison dot 2
10) SE

I tried growl for quite some time, however with burst dps reaching post 5k figures now a 1.8 cast time is around 9k lost damage and i really dunno if i can make that up with only 10% more melee damage (yup, i usually am in shaman/bard groups).

I do not believe in having my own heal up, firstly it does not heal enough for most raid situations and second we do have healers for that duty, that is after all one of the reasons for class diversity in this game.

In the beginning aggro in SoF was actually quite a lot better with the new deaggro tools, however i tend to get aggro again the same as before. Pretty much what i told Nodyin during beta that the current deaggro tools for beastlords, while being a lot better than before, are not sufficient in todays game. Especially if you compare them to rangers who are basicly in the same spot in terms of dps and raid usability.

We lost however quite a few places in the dps race with the current caster <-> melee disparity, casters absolutely stump everything, especially on burn fights. Wizzards reaching close to 20k (between 8 and 12k sustained) if they're lucky and druids doing well over 10k (around 7 to 9k sustained) is a huge boost compared to previous expansions and neither rogues nor berzerkers can hold up against that (at least not ours).

[kindarring2]

So what do you do denti if your healers go down or your healer needs a quick heal or even you are last one alive and a dots on you? Our heals are weak but they can be used. I have always had mine up and will always keep it up. You never know when yu may need it. Our heals are weak as anything but it may just help.
I never use them as a healer but as a tool that was given to my class to better the group or raid.

[Codak]

Having an enchanter cast manaflare on you is (usually) very easy, as they should be paired with caster DPS to receive the MF aura. They should always have a room in a rotation, thus you should always be able to get it.

All my enchanter keep saying there rotation is full, but i think there is something im not getting though cuz if they have aura going in grp and all casters in grp how do they not have room to shoot me manaflare idk?? Sound like i got cheap Enchanters

[wildwaters]

10) pet heal.

Blarp..Do you use this on raids a lot? I would think with the aa heals for pets and the pet benefiting from group heals he would stay up. Pet Heal just casts too slow for raids I would think. I keep it up in group/solo all the time though.

   Does aa heal cure?

[Orbus1]

I do not believe in having my own heal up, firstly it does not heal enough for most raid situations and second we do have healers for that duty, that is after all one of the reasons for class diversity in this game.

I use heals normally like kindarring2 stated, our heal works nice as a spot heal for yourself if the healer is busy healing the tank, or if your healer is getting beat on before a tank picks up all the trash that the monks pulled in. I would think getting a crit heal of 4-5k could be a lifesaver sometimes.

[Denti]

In my group/xp setup i have my heal up of course and sometimes even use it. But in a full 54 man raid we have people who as a main job heal, and as they rely on me to buff them and do dps i rely on them to heal, and surprisingly that works. Additionally i have heal potions up (we get them for free from the guild) to help as needed.

[Hzath]

Quote from: Inphared on January 25, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
Having an enchanter cast manaflare on you is (usually) very easy, as they should be paired with caster DPS to receive the MF aura. They should always have a room in a rotation, thus you should always be able to get it.

All my enchanter keep saying there rotation is full, but i think there is something im not getting though cuz if they have aura going in grp and all casters in grp how do they not have room to shoot me manaflare idk?? Sound like i got cheap Enchanters

Keep harassing them, it took months before they gave in to me.  Asking every enchanter online before every event worked for me, and now they're great about it.

[Codak]

Okay ill keep on asking them hehe i should threaten to not SE them hehe

[AbyssalMage]

OK, I feel dumb for asking this, but I rarely raid so don't feel too horrible.

What is SE?  That Spiritual Enlightenment and its upgrades?  And if so, why?  I understand people die, but isn't it just easier to mem it, cast it, and forget it?

I really need to raid more. everyone's magelo is making me feel sick!

[wildwaters]

   Yes SE is the upgrade to spiritual enlightenment line. I usually keep it memmed for mid event rezzes but with FocPara it is almost moot unless its a long fight. I can cast FocPara on newly ressed healer for no mana and less cast time (wiith out maxed quick buff) so it makes less impact on my dps ad the returns are better. If I have a free slot or dont need some other spell there I keep it loaded. I rarely use it mid event.

                                                    - wild

[kindarring2]

Sitting done mid fight on a mob that has adds=bad news also that takes away from dps . Faster to have it memed do RT (reply tell) and then back to main assist raid.