Burn dps in raids

[Kanan]

/chuckle.. my spell line-up's fubar in it's order, but here goes:

1 ) Poison nuke1
2 ) Poison Dot1
3 ) Swarm Pet
4 ) Promised
5 ) SE/Growl (depends on what I left up, explanation below)
6 ) Cold Nuke 1
7 ) General Heal
8 ) Bulwark of Tri-qaras
9 ) Cold Nuke 2
10 ) Poison Dot 2

I finally got latest growl, but I still don't really use it that much, since I'm of the opinion that most of what I cast is greater dps than what I gan from the melee mod... that and I got out of the habit when I had to give up it's spot to bite of the asp.

I'm a keyboard user, since I often lose my cursor in the scrum on the screen, and will also often have targeting issues with it. so I've got the top 3 nukes tied to keyboard single keys and I spam the everloving hell outa my kick key which I have tied to 5 on numpad, along with the key I have set that fires off foray & feral swipe at once.

I have a pattern down such that getting my discing hotkey to fire is barely a thought, more a spinal reaction nowadays ;p.  That hotkey fires off Roar (my theory being I want the agro dump when I'm burning and that I've been beating on the mob a bit by then, so could use the agro dump), then fires off Frenzy, then fires off EF and assists the pet.  I try to always hit BA once the disc is done to get as much outa FoS's remaining timer as I can.  If we're still burning at that point (esp since I capped it out this past week), I'll hit First spire, and then, if we're STILL burning, what? 3, 4 mins later?, I'll hit GBA.  I'm honestly slack on hitting Attack of the Warders (I think I need to shift it to same pad as GBA & 1st Spire so I think of it more)

I know if I were with a buncha monks, hitting GBA sooner would be more beneficial to the group, but most of the time, I don't get with the monks (they're just jealous I think ;p), or only 1.

A point of pride with me is eking out every bit of dps that I can outa my toon.  I have generally been undergeared compared to other bsts in the guild and other's that can maintain sanity with an 80+% RA (I start to get really pissy and don't like the game as much when I deal with these people I'm guilded with when my RA starts to get over 70%), but I still out dmg most of the others in the guild.

Sorta sad comment on D-ro when so many folks better geared on our server are doing so much poorer than me.

[Kanan]

Sitting done mid fight on a mob that has adds=bad news also that takes away from dps . Faster to have it memed do RT (reply tell) and then back to main assist raid.

or you tell someone else who gets off on buffing to hit em.. or you just ignore em ;p

[Codak]

1 ) Poison nuke1
2 ) Poison Dot1
3 ) Swarm Pet
4 ) Promised
5 ) SE/Growl (depends on what I left up, explanation below)
6 ) Cold Nuke 1
7 ) General Heal
8 ) Bulwark of Tri-qaras
9 ) Cold Nuke 2
10 ) Poison Dot 2

Just wondering you dont fero anyone including yourself?? Fero will allow yourself to get more dps then say perhapse (Poisen dot/cold nuke 2) im still parsing to see which is better dps wise it is really close!!

[kindarring2]

I guess your a different high end raider then I. I buff people no matter what with-in 10 secs of the tell. Also I could never fero myself since I always have it on rouges/zerker or this nice monk :) 4 the max I can do with being able to pay attention.

[Nusa]

DURING a main event, I almost never buff anyone with anything other than paragon/focused paragon...the time spent is dps lost, and on longer events the 1600 mana spent can matter too.

During clearing, I have no problem buffing on request. However, always remember it's a group buff, and make darn sure you don't buff groups with pullers when you don't know where the pullers are. That incoming two could turn into incoming eight because of you.

[Denti]

SE is a single key rebuff (thanks to my G15) so i usually have it memmed. If there is a puller in that group and he gets hit, tough luck, all players should by now know its a group buff.

And for Fero, well, in our experience and according to the parses we've done it is pretty much useless, so i do not use it anymore, nor does any of the other beastlords in my guild. But of course we usually have around 3.5k atk before fero during raids, with a bard over 4k. With diminishing returns past 2k that is allready a lot over cap.

[Codak]

And for Fero, well, in our experience and according to the parses we've done it is pretty much useless, so i do not use it anymore, nor does any of the other beastlords in my guild. But of course we usually have around 3.5k atk before fero during raids, with a bard over 4k. With diminishing returns past 2k that is allready a lot over cap.

Fero increases dps from around 100dps-500dps depending on class monks/berzerkers getting the most gain out of fero from my parses!! And when it comes to dps the 4sec it takes to cast se will not lower your dps by that much your just being lazy and wanna try to parse good or someting!

[Inphared]

Fero increases dps from around 100dps-500dps depending on class monks/berzerkers getting the most gain out of fero from my parses!!

lol

[Denti]

Well, beastlords can peak over 5k dps these days on burn fights, losing 4 seconds of that plus the mana to throw a couple nukes will of course hurt yourself .)

[Latang]

Hmm. We just started Crystalos (Guild is always a ghost town between Christmas and February, thanks to lunar new year) and we blew through fire mini and dragon, and earth mini and half of dragon in our first night. (we DID do a raid during the break with 30 ppl, 36 toons and took out the fire mini, but that one hardly counts). Either way, last night, on our first real raid, I was ready. Had my dots (1 disease 1 poison, in case poison bounced, wasn't sure on fire mini), pet happily buffed, 1 poison 1 cold nuke, and me with standard raid buffs. I had no bard, or shaman, or zerker in my group. We attacked, I sent me and pet in, yowl II, greyed out the nukes, sent in attack warders, hit emp, immediately on retarget (f8 works well for that mob) hit foray II and swipe, and just did my very best to keep things on. Hit group BA when emp dropped.

Only a short fight, don't remember what it was, but... 3.2k dps. Including pets/warder. Warder died on enrage (was too slow hitting back off).

I can't think what I'm doing wrong. Is it weapons? I don't THINK I'm missing any AA...

Weapons I'm using, for those who can't view magelo's at work like me (why is that??) are

Sharpened Steamworker's Screwdriver Piercing 
Slot: Secondary
DMG: 56 Delay: 22
Magic DMG: 1
Proc Effect: Ethereal Strike Rate: +0%

Studded Engineer's Workgrips Hand
Slot: Primary, Secondary
DMG: 52 Delay: 19
Proc Effect: Freezing Strike III Rate: +0%
» Decrease Hitpoints by 150; (Single)

No aug in secondary yet (waiting on bloodfields to give me a +dmg aug) and lifesap 2? i think, in mainhand, hoping for a +dmg aug for that too.

Fire dragon didn't drop wraps, but I wouldn't be getting them for at least 3-4 drops anyway (spending dkp on armor instead)

Any ideas?

[Inphared]

Best group: Shaman, Bard, Berserker

You're not going to get the parse of your life without that trio. You don't mention manaflare, and you only used one cold nuke.

If at first you don't succeed, try try again!

[Latang]

We have 1 enchanter on raids, despite our recruiting. And that enchanter is being boxed by a ranger. He'd prolly tell me to go die :(  Also, the cleric raid leader (she leads when she's online - gives ME a break) had me in her group with the tanks since my channels don't work and it became the inpromptu officer chat.

That being said, does that mean that 3k2 dps isn't that shabby given the circumstances?

[Inphared]

I'd say so, yes. Just up your nukes from two to three and you'll be good. No reason not to use the second cold nuke.

[Codak]

Fero increases dps from around 100dps-500dps depending on class monks/berzerkers getting the most gain out of fero from my parses!!

lol

It helps!

[Inphared]

Not in the values that you described.